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User:Chmouel asked:

Contents 1 Images 2 Infobox 3 Reorganization 4 Map, please

[edit] Images

The first picture is IMHO ugly (no offense to the one who took it) !!! would you mind if i change the picture for some better one like found here : http://www.chmouel.com/geeklog/gallery/gallery_individual.php/centralam/4.html

I took the photo, and I'm not at all offended. That's something I took with a cheap instamatic years ago that I put here only for the lack of something better. Something better is very welcome, thanks for sharing your fine photos. Best wishes, -- Infrogmation 10:54, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I have uploaded a new picture let me know what do you tink ? Let me know what do you think. Cheers. --Chmouel Boudjnah 19:59, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Thanks User:Infrogmation to have fixed the description of the picture, i could not remember which temple was it. --Chmouel Boudjnah 20:19, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Looks good! -- Infrogmation

I moved my old pic here to talk for the time being. Do you Chmouel or anyone else have a better picture with a similar view? The temple pic now at the article is certainly a better photo, but this one gives some idea of the size of the central portion of the site and that much of it is still overgrown. -- Infrogmation 19:19, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Humm i can't recognize on my pictures (i was really sick the day i went to tikal chicken bus killed me) maybe you can look on my website and tell me if there is one that may be good for your article ? --Chmouel Boudjnah 20:14, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox

The infobox could be more informative to the site (and less cryptic about the UNESCO designation). As a Maya archaeologist, I honestly don't "get" much of the infobox. It should focus upon the site itself, and the city's history - not governmental designations. The Unesco info should be a footnote, or a lower paragraph. Remember, this is an Encyclopedia - it should cover the base knowledge first, and the details last. The infobox, therefore, should reflect the most salient features of the site (not political designations).Chunchucmil 15:35, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree. However, it appears that the current infobox was carried over from, I guess, a standard template applied to other World Heritage Sites (e.g., see Delphi, Persepolis, and Memphis, for example. The WHS infobox is not consistently applied among all of its sites, however (see Statue of Liberty). I personally would rather see an archaeology-based infobox for Tikal and other sites, much like we discussed over on WikiProject Mesoamerica, but I guess the question comes down to what has priority (UNESCO, or Basic information?) -- Oaxaca dan 15:57, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm probably biased, but I would say that an infobox containing the relevant basic information as a (Mesoamerican) archaeological site ought to take precedence here over this much more specific aspect. That said, there's no reason why the article can't contain both infoboxes, say with the Heritage Site infobox moved a bit lower down to a section which discusses that context.

I know I've been promising for some time to develop a Mesoamerican site infobox, and as soon as I can string together enough time to develop one I'll see what I can do.--cjllw | TALK 01:43, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I think we all might be a bit biased here. :) Anyway, we could use the one Chun and I have worked on over on the Chunchucmil site as a springboard/working template. The information contained therein is simple, relatively easy to obtain, and so on. The list of potential information suggest on the WikiProject Mesoamerica talk page is great to look into when we have time, but some of it is somewhat more complex and difficult to obtain (# of structures, emblem glyphs, etc.). All of that material, though, would be excellant to have in a nice standard infobox. -- Oaxaca dan 03:21, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

potential infobox/starting point - something like this? I would like to put a bolded title on top, but i can't quite get the code correct at the moment. -- Oaxaca dan 03:40, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Insert Image Tikal
Country:	Guatemala
State:	Peten
Municipality:	Flores?
Culture:	Maya
Mesoamerican sub-region	Southern Maya lowlands
Peak of Occupation:	Classic Period
Chronological Range of Occupation:	Middle Preclassic - Terminal Classic?
Estimated Size:	60 km2
Estimated Peak Population:	100,000 - 200,000

[edit] Reorganization

I started reogranizing the page. Mainly moving stuff around, making it more concise, what-have-you. Opinions? Concerns? Please let me know. Peace -- Oaxaca dan 04:18, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

can someone verify the "First Prophecy" reference in the Etymology section? It sounds awfully suspicious to me. -- Oaxaca dan 04:45, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Map, please

A map showing where Tikal is located wouold be helpful. Thanks. -- 201.19.77.39 22:02, 11 October 2007 (UTC)