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[edit] AfD nomination of Les Tyrell

An article that you have been involved in editing, Les Tyrell, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Les Tyrell. Thank you. Twenty Years 16:50, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

  • I hope you don't mind a suggestion from me - and I vote to keep (as others have) is to stay calm Thuringowacityrep - there is nothing wrong with supporting your city on WP - but do not protest to loudly or lose your calm with legitimate delete !votes. Even better take the time to polish the article up a bit more so that you get even more keep votes.--VS talk 11:15, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Townsville-Burdekin School District

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Townsville-Burdekin School District, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you agree with the deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add {{db-author}} to the top of Townsville-Burdekin School District. Twenty Years 00:45, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Suburbs of Thuringowa City

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Suburbs of Thuringowa City, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you agree with the deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add {{db-author}} to the top of Suburbs of Thuringowa City. Twenty Years 01:52, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thuringowa

It appears you have not taken well to my large-scale cleanup of the City of Thuringowa article. Now basically, this is what i think:

  • the info you reverted in the Media section is covered in the "Media in the City of Thuringowa" article (either have the information in one place, or not at all)).
  • Listing the attractions of the beaches is pure boosterism, i have not seen any LGA article do this. Why not just name the beaches, hell: i was thinking of removing the entire section.

Apologies for any inconvenience. Cheers. Twenty Years 15:28, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I know you are pissed off about it, and for that im sorry. This article/set of articles is very-well known within the WP:AUS community. This article reeeeks of POV-pushing (im not accusing you) and boosterism, i must admit when i first read the article, i thought it was some like major state/territory.
Why not, to save the questions/peoples comments just change your username, its not like its going to cause you that much of an issue.
I think my edits have been more than constructive. If you have a problem with the referencing, then fix it. If you have any further concerns, please contact me, thanks. Twenty Years 15:53, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
OK, what you are failing to see is that ive trimmed the article down to about half the size, removing all of the cruft - that is information not relevant to the area, POV pushing, and pure boosterism. What must be remembered is that this article is on a LGA, not a city, ive found three good examples of similar articles: City of Joondalup, Rural City of Marong, and City of Wyndham. The article was rated as B-Class and that is fine, because it still is B-Class. Just as a side-note, you may wish to tone down your comments relating to the article, you seem to be bringing on most of the trouble yourself. Thanks. Twenty Years 15:01, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Must pass on my thanks for the LOLarious commentary on the situation. Twenty Years 18:08, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
  • your comment just goes to show what sort of person you are and why you have done what you did....tool Thuringowacityrep (talk) 09:20, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Remember: "comment on the content, not the contributor," mate. Twenty Years 11:54, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tyrell

No worries. He's been in for so long, and the newspaper records are good enough that a perfectly decent little article could be written around him by someone with the energy and Factiva access, and I get a bit frustrated when people race off to delete stuff before even checking whether that sort of coverage exists or not.

However, I do think you're bringing some of this on yourself with your aggressive attitude to any content about Thuringowa. The City of Thuringowa article is filled with content that has absolutely nothing to do with the actual Local Government Area - it's filled with general cruft about the region itself. You're not the first to do this (I remember taking another user up on this with Municipality of Strathfield in Sydney some years ago), but it is frustrating that you keep edit warring to keep that material in when it's degrading what could be a really good article. (I've noticed that you keep citing a B rating that some random user gave the article; however, a B rating is basically "mediocre" on Wikipedia.) This sort of confrontational attitude is unnecessary, and frankly, pissing people off, so I'm not exactly surprised that there's some people giving you short shrift on the Tyrell AfD. Rebecca (talk) 08:20, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sockpuppetry case

You have been accused of sockpuppetry. Please refer to Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Thuringowacityrep for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with notes for the suspect before editing the evidence page. Mattinbgn\talk 10:46, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

It's been proven. I am genuinely disappointed that you resorted to this - in all my dealings with you till now (going back about 12 months), you'd stuck to the rules. I hope this is the last of it. Orderinchaos 12:19, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Also, there was very little reason for the sock-puppetry. Most likely, the article will be kept. You and others had made your case well. -- Mattinbgn\talk 23:37, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Well i'd be fucked, this is getting low now, for a start the user that you say is a sockpuppet IS NOT, the User is a Good Friend of mine from Cairns and did infact play im my band with me untill i had to give up, we were talking the other day and i just said about how there are some cock heads on here that are very one sided (just saying what i told him) and he said that he would have a look at the site as he had never heard of it and i told him that it has a lot of info on bands, and yes he may have done a few edits that i had NO input in (i might add) and as some of them were in my watch list i did see what he had done and really all he did was correct a few pages that were wrong (and you all know that they were) i just hope that when he gets home from work and finds out what you have done he doesn't get pissed off becasue this is not the right way to treat a new editor...IS IT?. So much for your it's proven, now i am the one who is genuinely disappointed that you resorted to this. Thuringowacityrep (talk) 03:43, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Seriously consider if this is the approach you wish to take regarding this issue. The evidence is quite strong and there are means to gather further evidence if necessary. My advice to you is to accept the block of your sock-puppet and continue to contribute using your main account. Sock-puppeteers can be blocked indefinitely; as a good will gesture you have been allowed to continue editing. Do not abuse this good will. -- Mattinbgn\talk 04:19, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
  • I am aware of the "other means" i have been on wiki for over 3 years,(i know how it works) i dont have a sockpuppet block to accept, that is something that you have to get over with my mate of more than 27 years, so i am sure we my feel the same way about things... christ...we used to spend a lot of time together,what he has done my have added fuel to the fire and for that i'm sorry but i never held a gun to his head telling what to edit on here, however i did tell him to look at the Les page and offer his input, was this wrong ....NO....he added his POV as have a lot of other editors. Now stop trying to get me so pissed off that i do something that is wrong. Now drop this bullshit because the sooner you cut it out and the few other editors that have had a brain fart, the sooner we are all better off and back to how is was when i first added all that good info the Thuringowa page, all praise and everybody was happy Thuringowacityrep (talk) 04:47, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Sorry to say but the above is just wrong. There is cold hard evidence which blows it right out of the water. I'd have a lot more respect for you if you admitted it, apologised and we could all move on. Orderinchaos 08:03, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

... "stop trying to get me so pissed off that i do something that is wrong" - is that a threat? As an uninvolved admin, be warned that your main account is a whisker away from being blocked, so if you have any sense at all, accept the verdict and get back to constructive editing. You appear to have been given a very generous chance to continue here despite accusations of bad faith of others. There won't be second chance. —Moondyne 08:37, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

On second thoughts, there's no doubt that is a threat. Language like that has no place in Wikipedia and I am blocking you for 48 hours to let you consider our policies. —Moondyne 08:43, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
A bit stale admittedly, but this edit seals it. —Moondyne 09:38, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
You have been blocked for a period of 48 hours for sockpuppetry, threats and accusations of bad faith. To contest this block, please reply here on your talk page by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} along with the reason you believe the block is unjustified, or email the blocking administrator or any administrator from this list. —Moondyne 10:06, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
  • THIS WAS NOT A THREAT and you POV is not welcome, all i was trying to get across is that i am sick of so called editors on here saying that 1: because i have Thuringowa in my user name, i am "IN" with the council and this is BS,(plus why should i have to change my user name) 2: everytime someone added Thuringowa somewhere it must be me, 3: my mate came on and does a few edits and now im a sockpuppet, 4: So called editor adding Delete tags to the pages that i had worked on just to get back to me (other editors pointed out the that user that it was going over the top), 5: the editor (used lightly) that removed over half of all the hard work and many many hours that i put into the Thuringowa page to bring it up from a crap page to at least having a B rating, and this is my thanks for all that. So all i can say is Thanks heaps and what a great time i had on here untill a few editors had to stuff it up just because they wanted to stir up shit. I can only take so much and i had so i let it fly and i'm not sorry for that.

This blocked user (block log | autoblocks | rangeblocks | unblock | contribs | deleted contribs) has asked to be unblocked, but an administrator has reviewed and declined this request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock request while you are blocked.

Request reason: "THIS WAS NOT A THREAT, all i was trying to get across is that i am sick of so called editors on here saying that 1: because i have Thuringowa in my user name, i am "IN" with the council and i have nothing to do the council, i do know the Mayor,(plus why should i have to change my user name as i was told be one of the same editors) 2: everytime someone added Thuringowa somewhere it must be me, ( i am always loged in ...i never sign out) 3: my mate came on and does a few edits and now im a sockpuppet, (i did ask him to look at the LES Tyrell page and give his POV but this was all Plus he is from Cairns) 4: So called editor adding Delete tags to the pages that i had worked on just to get back to me (other editors pointed out the that user that it was going over the top and yet the editor kept adding smart comments after his edits or on my talk page), 5: the editor (used lightly) that removed over half of all the hard work and many, many hours that i put into the Thuringowa page to bring it up from a start page to at least having a B rating,(just becasue in the editors POV that page had to much info but yet other city LGA pages are ok (eg Cairns) and this is my thanks for all that.(no one ever said to me that the page needed this or that, and if any had i would have looked at fixing it but after i added the info it got the new rating and was fine for quite some time, i thought the page was great as did a few other editors that took the time to say thanks and keep up the great work) Like i have said before if my mate made a few edits the same as i make, is that my fault, i'm sorry but i don't think so and i am really just put off by the negitive vibe that is on here at the moment."

Decline reason: "reason — I've declined the unblock request. You were caught out fair and square engaging in sockpuppetry, and attacking other editors because of that is not helping your case. It is not particularly believable that a mysterious "friend from Cairns" who just happens to share your unique writing style and rather equally unique interests has only edited from your computer, and only at times when you've been editing and have logged out immediately beforehand. This incident has nothing to do with your editing of Thuringowa pages, but you're certainly not helping your case by engaging in sockpuppetry and personal attacks. Rebecca (talk) 12:01, 14 January 2008 (UTC)"

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  • Thank you for you reply in Plain english, i see you can understand me, and what i wrote above i thought was what i had to do...but i guess i was wrong (yet again) i'm not going to say any more on this issue just that someone has got something wrong here, and all i will say is that he is and does live in Cairns and unless he has hacked my computer, being able to edit from mine is inpossable...something is not right. But what can i do, it's the POV of the editors on here that matter. Again thanks for letting me know and not being smart about it like that other editor.