Talk:Thousand Foot Krutch

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[edit] This is a Call

I thought that was their best single (As in airplay). Its still being played here in Holland, Mi--User:NFAN3|NFAN3 21:45, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NU Metal or what?

This is About the band Just being Hard Rock or add to the Genre Nu Metal

Just hard rock and in some cases metal but not NU —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.38.65.47 (talk) 15:14, 11 October 2007 (UTC) User:Skateremorocker

[edit] Who Wrote the Section on the Name?

It sounds like my friend Laura who is obsessed with this band.

[edit] X Worship 2006

One may want to add to this article the fact that this band has a song on this compilation cd. -EdGl 01:02, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

GO FOR IT!!Bacl-presby 00:35, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Done. -EdGl 03:28, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Not sure how many others they're on, but I know their song Rawkfist was on X: 2004. There might even be others out there as well. --Az 03:07, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

"Everyone Like Me" was on X 2005, "Move" was on X 2006, and "Absolute" was on X 2007. Also, I have never heard of X Worship 2006, but I have heard of, and own, X Worship, which has "Breath You In". Saksjn 12:10, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jamie Aplin

I know Jamie Aplin is the touring guitarist for TFK, but has he ever officially been mentioned as the full-time guitarist? I know I might be splitting hairs here, but on every TFK disc, Trevor has gotten the credit for guitars. Should we change Jamie's stature in the band? Roofi's Publicist 20:08, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

He always gets back-up gutiarist credits on the songs, while whoever else is with the band at the time gets the lead. In concert, he only sings. Saksjn 12:13, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question about a song

I can't for the life of me figure out the name of this song. The site I found it at said it was Phenomenon by Thousand Foot Krutch. I have that song, and this isn't it. I've looked up lyrics for their songs at WikiLyrics, but it's not there. It goes something like this:

{{Lyrics are COPYVIO. Removed by Dan, the CowMan 02:17, 31 January 2007 (UTC)}}

Can anyone tell me what this song is? --RockMaster 02:48, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rude Awakening (A.K.A. Home)

TFK recorded a song called Rude Awakening (Since called Home, here on the internet) and distributed 100 copies of it on CD. This website has the story on the song. How should we go about adding this to the wiki article?

Here is the text from the above site:

E-mail from Trevor McNevan, lead vocalist of Thousand Foot Krutch, to another TFK fan and TFK fan site webmaster: "'Home' is actually called 'Rude Awakening'(I'm not sure why someone called it 'home' on the net), and is a song I wrote and recorded by myself. It's just a demo version(still ruff), but I have fun writing a lot of my own stuff on the side. This song was inspired by Cassey Bernall, the girl who was shot and killed in the Columbine high school shootings. She stood up for what she believed in, and wasn't afraid to die for it. That really spoke to me, would you and I stand up for God if it meant death? It's a deep question. A question that can only be truly answered by a 'History Maker'. I hope you dig it man. If it's alright, can you pass this on to anyone who's heard the song to give them a little background on it? Thanks again, " Trev(vocalist/songwriter for TFK) "I found out a little more about the song. Some of it was already posted here about Trevor being inspired by the Columbine shooting, but there is more. They were not allowed to play the song when they were in Columbine last year (understandaby, at the time the students there were very sensitive to the issue) so instead they burned 100 copies onto cds and were allowed to sell them at the show. All 100 copies were sold. There will NOT be any more official versions of these discs made. they were made with out the permission of the record company (Who technically owns all TFK recordings made while under contract). If you have one of these discs, it is even more rare than Oddball or Thats What People Do." Kerry (Official Thousand Foot Krutch Site Web Design)

Any help on this would be greatly appreaciated ColdShoulder 16:33, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rawkist

I've created a stub on Rawkfist and you guys should take a look. Saksjn 02:02, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Flame In All Of us

I tried to add a picture but all I could do is add a link to the picture, could some-one help

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:02 TFK Photo 2.jpg

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BetacommandBot 04:42, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Images

Free images can be taken from the official TFK ecards. The images are available to the public for use as desktop wallpapers, so I would assume that using them as a promotional image is fully legal under the fair use rationale.

Jcpizzadude 19:53, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Genre

Why do people constantly want to make sure this band is labled "christian rock" I see nothing on their website, myspace, purevolume, or lyrics that imply a direct association with "christian music" They are not marketed as such either, even though there are bands associated with CCM on tooth and nail, many are just simply bands, I see no evidence as to why TFK, isn't simply just a band as well. Logically isn't christianity a faith, not a genre, and regardless of weather or not the band members claim to be christians, why would the type of music be labled different because of the band member's spirituality? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.201.192.24 (talk) 22:09, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Read the lyrics to supafly, unbelievable, this is a call and small town - all of those say Jesus or christ. Last words says the word god and also points out "Life is more than just a game you're playing"

Apart from that there was something on a website where the new album was mentioned that the name of god continues to influence the groups music, so many songs must be focused on him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.38.65.47 (talk) 17:30, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

also, they have gotten number ones like "Absolute" on christianrock.net, and other singles charting there.

They are playing a teen christian concert.

Uh... someone who doesnt' believe TFK is a Christian Band... oh brother... that's like saying Slayer isn't a metal band... Oh well, here goes. 1. They are distributed in the Christian market and have been since they started. Infact, they started ONLY in the Christian market to begin with. 2. Christian music is a genre, based off lyrics, yes. Just like Emo is a genre, based of lyrics (emo can be hardcore, post-hadcore, screamo, etc). 3. They thank Christ/God foremost in their thank you's. 4. "If you're real then take me Jesus" ring a bell? The lyrics make it so. 5. They have said they are. You seriously must have hardly ever listened to these guys to not think they are a Christian band. IronCrow 01:35, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Wow I can't belive there is some small debate about their Christianity just listen to their song Breath you in its so obvious and I went to a concert with only Christian bands and it was in a church and at the concert they made it pretty clear.

[edit] Rapcor

These guys are not rapcore, they past two albums haven't been, so if people insist on having the genre put up, I insist in brackets we put (earlier albums) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.38.65.47 (talk) 15:17, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nu metal

I don't think NU metal should be on the genre list, since only phenomenom deserves that label so saying early wouldnt be properly correct. It wouldn't make sense to put phenomenom in brackets either, so i'm removing it from the genres.

MATT 14 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Matt 14 (talk • contribs) 22:55, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TFK Template

There should be a Template:ThousandFootKrutch, How do you make one of those, like the Template:RelientK one?


[edit] DVD

Why is it not said that The art of breaking album has a DVD on it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.119.67.47 (talk) 19:29, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ridiculous genres

I understand most genres on the front page but then you have silly ones that are obviously not right like christcore (christian hardcore) and christian metal, until these two can be sourced i'm removing them both.

What's carzy about Christian hardcore its in many of their songs like Hand grenades Falls apart Move and The art of breaking.

Although Christian metal is ridiculous.

well the art of breaking and move and falls apart has no hardcore. i suppose inhuman and slow bleed has some, but if anything its an influence, not one of their genres. for example some bands are influenced by classical music, but it is not always one of their music genres. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pessimistemo32 (talk • contribs) 13:01, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

That's true but still I think they are Christian hardcore even if its only two or three songs we understand.

Ok, so rise against have 2 or 3 acoustic songs recorded in their career, is it acceptable to put acoustic rock on their genres? what do you think? im using this as a comparison for the TFK article, or how about the starting line? can we label them acoustic rock for their short EP they made of acoustic songs? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.38.65.47 (talk) 21:30, 24 January 2008 (UTC) Fine your right about that but it says Hard rock and their is no Christian hard rock genre in wikipedia so I write Christian hardcore and if you remove that then just remove Hard rock —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.119.66.220 (talk) 21:04, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

What about Rapcore that's only in one album and its only a few songs and its still here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.29.155.141 (talk) 21:32, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

why do people keep on adding really stupid genres to the page like Heavy metal or Christian Metal, and also remember only phenomenom falls under NU metal, the early stuff was rapcore/christian rock. At least source them then I won't take any genres off. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thrice34 (talk • contribs) 21:05, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

what are you talking about? heavy metal, they are a hard rock/heavy metal band. and christian metal, there more christian metal than christian rock. And what do you mean only phenomenon falls under nu metal. what about set it off? thats way more nu metal than phenomenon. the only nu metal song in phenomenon is bounce. your the rediculous one, not these genres. In fact see what i got coming in next --Mr. Comedian (talk) 23:57, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Well heavy metal has growling screamed vocals, do TFK? no, they are hard rock. How can you say Set if off is nu metal, its rap/rock songs like "All the way live" "supafly" "rhime animal" and "unbelievable" then you get a good rock song like "everyone like me" or a ballad like "sweet unknown" or "small town" or the rawk song "the alternative song" on phenomenom you get less rap, more heavy riffs and Korn influence, the prominent band of new metal. Most songs on Phenomenom have heavy riffs, no chugging or screamings, yet the riffs have some sort of metal feel, must be NU metal. As for them being a christian metal band, they call themselves rock, and anyway the riffs and vocals arent exactly metal, and between the two latest albums there are many softer slower songs far removed from anything metal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.38.65.47 (talk) 00:30, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

apart from that more pre phenomenom songs like Moment of the day and when in doubt have nothing to do with nu metal either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.38.65.47 (talk) 12:12, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

heavy metal doesnt have screaming growling vocals, screamo does, theres a difference. stryper is a christian metal band and they dont scream and/or growl. underoath is a christian screamo band and they do scream and growl. tfk is hard rock/heavy metal. and nu metal is rap metal --Mr. Comedian (talk) 15:05, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Okay so I toke out that ridiclous users things because now i relized I was the one being a little ridiculous. However put christian hardcore was deffinatly wrong. and i understand more clearly now what you guys are saying. I thought that nu metal was rap metal but now i relized that theres a difference. I'm sorry for the way i responded. But i still do think that songs such as rawkfist, ordinary, and puppet are heavy metal. but songs such as move, everyone like me, and the flame in all of us are hard rock. then they have really soft songs like brother john is pop punk and this is a call is acoustic rock. I'd say there main genre is Christian Rock and then hard rock. I'm very sorry for being a complete idiot. I relized that the way I responded was mean. Once Again, I am very sorry. --Mr. Comedian (talk) 02:36, 23 February 2008 (UTC) They are Christian hardcore how can you not see that! Just listen to almost every song in The art of breaking and Falls apart and I don't know anymore songs by them but when i do you'll see. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.119.235.118 (talk) 18:12, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok, so I guess they are Christian Hardcore. But I still say that Rawkfist is a Christian Metal song--Mr. Comedian (talk) 01:06, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Last CD

I heard rumors that the flame in all of us is there last cd. thats what dudes are saying on youtube. if these rumors are true. the bands active years would be 1997-2007. --Mr. Comedian (talk) 16:28, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

That's not their last album. Who said that it was I went to a concert in november and that album was released in the summer so their not done. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.29.33.172 (talk) 23:37, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

well some of the comments on youtube say that it is there last album but hey dont beleive evreything you read on the internet --Mr. Comedian (talk) 20:47, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

i hav also had a suspicion tho that the last track on the flame, 'The Last Song' may be what its title implies. do u hav a link 2 the videos out of curiousity? Jcpizzadude (talk) 14:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uF_YTSP6cvw comment is on page 7, although it may change by the time you check so if you dont see it keep looking --Mr. Comedian (talk) 20:52, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Don't belive anything you hear about them on the web unless its from Trevor mcneven. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.119.235.86 (talk) 19:07, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

good point dude --Mr. Comedian (talk) 21:43, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

true...they may say something about it on tour w/skillet —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcpizzadude (talk • contribs) 13:04, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

maybe --Mr. Comedian (talk) 19:50, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok heres some things to consider

They're active years would be 1997-2008 if they broke up now techically. All american rejects did a song called "the last song" but they are still going and have had albums since then. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.38.65.47 (talk) 12:07, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

So basicly nobody thinks they have broken up. and here's something else to thing about. If they broke up then they would have said something and their would be a goodby tour most likely and I was at a concert and they didn't say anything. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.29.146.211 (talk) 20:57, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Not christian hardcore

christian hardcore is not one of the genres. that is a form of metalcore as the article will state if you read it, and is what you'd call "no innocent victim" plus hardcore is hardcore punk it doesnt mean heavy music or anything like that, and tfk have very little to do with punk —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thrice34 (talk • contribs) 12:47, 27 March 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Christian metal

Why does it say they are Christian metal or Nu metal or anything of that nature? They have no songs containing Screams, Growls, Metal guitars or anything involving metal! If they where at all considered metal they would have to be Unblack metal due to their lighter guitars and screams with no growl. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.119.82.38 (talk) 23:33, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

And they are not NU metal!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.29.146.158 (talk) 16:39, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Um, no? Metal does not have contain growls to be Metal, and they wouldn't be Unblack because they don't scream...at all...Nu metal is accurate for their earlier stuff, but they're more Alternative Rock nowadays...GreenRunner0 21:27, 24 May 2008 (UTC)