Talk:Thermodynamic free energy

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Internet coverage of the subject of free energy is vast, ranging from magnetic motors to solid state generators, including claims to working prototypes as well as charges of fraud, conspiracy, or just plain delusion. At a minimum, it makes for entertaining review. [1]

I think you'll find that all motors are magnetic. It's how they turn, you see. - Mark Ryan 07:18, 9 Dec 2003 (UTC)

You mean all electric motors are electromagnets; but the point remains to change the phrase to "electric motors". Actually, I'm not even sure that this is true, since linear motion can be mechanically converted into circular motion. No matter, any PPM calling itself a "magnetic motor" probably claims to work only on magnetostatics, not electromagnetism, so "magnetostatic motor" would be the way to distinguish them. -- Toby Bartels 20:17, 4 Mar 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Not a field-based distinction

It's very misleading to say that chemists use one free energy and physicists use the other. Helmholtz free energy is a very important notion for explosives chemistry, because naturally, PV is not really a going to be a controllable term.

[edit] See Also

Why is Merle Randall referenced? At the very least, a description should be added to who he was. Also seems like if you are to include him, Helmholtz, Gibbs and Lewis ought to be linked as well. Thermodude 15:56, 10 July 2007 (UTC)