Talk:Theodore Roosevelt High School (Kent, Ohio)

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Victuallers 12:44, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

more refs please for a B Victuallers 22:34, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Contents 1 Fair use rationale for Image:New Roosevelt logo.PNG 2 Clarify 3 Fair use rationale for Image:RHSSeal.png 4 Shade of Red

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:New Roosevelt logo.PNG

Image:New Roosevelt logo.PNG is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:28, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Clarify

Just in case someone suspects that the contents of this article are simply copied from the school's website, I just want to make it clear that, in fact, the opposite is true. I wrote them first on Wikipedia and then they were used on the school district's webpage about Roosevelt here. The district's page also includes a link to the school's main website, RHSWeb. --JonRidinger (talk) 07:43, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:RHSSeal.png

Image:RHSSeal.png is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:03, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Shade of Red

As for the shade of red used in the logo vs. the shade of red used in the infobox, the shade used in the infobox is the hex number identified as "red." Roosevelt lists its colors as just "red, white, and black" and the uniforms and other sportswear that have red in them are basic red. Here is an example...note the uniform's shade of red versus the website's shade of red in the border and logo. The uniforms are basic red, while the website uses a deeper shade, most likely to be easier for the viewer. The shade used in the picture Image:New Roosevelt logo.PNG shouldn't be judged as "the" shade used by the school especially since it's a low-resolution image. The logos used on Ohio State's pages illustrate how the low-resolution logo isn't always the correct shade...several of the athletic logos are (or were...several were changed to match the actual hex "scarlet") a deeper shade of red even though it is clearly stated that OSU's colors are "scarlet and gray" and scarlet is a very bright shade of red. --JonRidinger (talk) 00:47, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

My mistake. I falsely assumed that the red on Image:New Roosevelt logo.PNG would be closer to Roosevelt's school color than "web-safe" red (i.e. what is displayed when one types in "red" for a color value). After all, "red" doesn't always mean red; look, for example, how marked the difference is between how Garfield & Windham interpret the color "gold". Just the same though, Jon, I'll defer to you on this one, since I'm guessing you've actually been to some TRHS athletic contests in your life. ;-) -- JeffBillman (talk) 05:22, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks...but that's the beauty of Wikipedia...we can apply our personal knowledge and experience where needed (with adequate sources of course!). Of note both Kent State and Akron identify "gold" as one of their colors, but Akron uses "metallic gold" and Kent State uses "golden" or web gold (i.e. yellow), which is what I'm assuming the difference is between Windham and Garfield. Windham always seems to use yellow with black and Garfield uses more black with metallic gold, or at least that's what it seems. And yes, I have been to a few TRHS athletic events in my life...class of 2000 ;).--JonRidinger (talk) 06:27, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Traditionally, Windham had used a "yellow"-like shade of gold, which I think Garfield also used (if memory serves). As Garfield started emphasizing its black color more, Windham changed to a metallic gold to distinguish its uniforms (and particularly football helmets). Or at least that's how it's been explained to me: This happened sometime between my graduation from WHS in 1990 and this year, so I don't know when it happened, nor do I have a reliable published source. -- JeffBillman (talk) 13:56, 1 June 2008 (UTC)