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Contents 1 Mamet's Involvement 2 Broadcast in Mexico 3 Ratings 4 Factual error 5 Link Correction 6 PDAs/cell phones 7 Cystal and Jeremy 8 GREY AND WILLIAMS (RANK) 9 24 related trivia 10 Season 3 11 Goofs 12 Fort Griffith 13 The Unit in Germany 14 Chain of Command 15 Weapons ? 16 Season 2 - Region 4 (Australia) 17 New theme 18 JONAS BLANE RANK (SGM and not CSM) 19 Size of the unit 20 Jonas's Rank 21 False Rumor?

[edit] Mamet's Involvement

I'm just wondering. Does anyone know if Mamet simply serves as Exec Producer or if he's like Aaron Sorkin and has a hand in every episode? His IMDB entry isn't very clear. Firehawk12 05:57, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Broadcast in Mexico

This show is broadcast in Mexico by FOX channel in Cable and Satelite. It airs Mondays at 22:00, but I have no reference on when it premiered. http://www.mundofox.com/series/the_unit/ Zunito 04:38, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ratings

What's the best way to mention the terrific ratings that 'The Unit' got? --Mercury1 17:29, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Provide proof. Link to Nielsen ratings or reports of said ratings. That's my $0.02 American... Rockhound 02:03, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Factual error

Just wanted to report one factual error I noticed in the show. I do not know if that could be incorporated into the article or not. In the Episode 10 of the Season 1, Jonas Blane (Dennis Haybert) tells the telephone operator that her original location where she is talking from is Peshawar, India. Peshawar is located in Pakistan not India. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chewy81 (talk • contribs)

Another factual error is that the Army does not roll it's sleeves, either in BDU or ACU uniform. It is against regulations - Little Medic

True only Marines do that. However given the nature of a special ops unit and other diferences to the regular military (beard, civilian clothes, ...) it's not necceccarly a facual error. Still good catch. 1redrun ^Talk 10:11, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

The Army does allow the rolling of the sleeves, but only if the outside portion is covering the rolled up portion. This is only in non-combat areas such as a Stateside post, etc. Arnabdas 20:58, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Actually, the Army doesn't allow it. http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=78832 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.144.134.2 (talk) 13:40, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Please refer to page 19 of AR 670-1, the uniform regs. "When soldiers wear the sleeves of the coat rolled up, the camouflage pattern will remain exposed. Personnel will roll the sleeves neatly above the elbow, no more than 3 inches above the elbow." You can roll your sleaves. Of course it was easier and looked better with the old BDUs. What style of BDUs were the characters wearing? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.148.21.82 (talk) 23:59, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Colonel Ryan's rank vs. unit size: it's probably not the size but the type of unit, i.e. the type of command that matters. Given the worldwide responsibilities and chain of command, a colonel in command makes sense. An Army colonel is equivalent to a Navy captain, which is the billet for commanding a SEAL team, although that was upped from commander. An Army captain is equivalent to whatever is less than Lt. Commander in the Navy (I think). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.49.77.67 (talk) 16:50, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Since when is a SEAL Team commanded by an O6 and not an O5? Each team is still commanded by an O5, and in the Navy the rank of Lieutenant is O3. --< Nicht Nein! (talk) 07:24, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Link Correction

Changed 2 references to Special Forces to direct to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Army_Special_Forces as they are refering in that case to US Army Special Forces (Green Berets). I left one pointing to Special Forces as it is more a discussion about the missions and may be the more general use. --BenWoodruff 21:00, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] PDAs/cell phones

What type of PDAs/cell phones do the members of The Unit generally use? Might be an interesting piece of trivia. Also, is anyone familiar with what that exact "ringtone" is? I can't say it reminds me of any other cell phone.

The PDA Haysbert uses to track the UAV looks like it's a clean up iPAQ with no logo, might be wrong about that though. The ringtone does indeed sound familiar. I think it's from Splinter Cell, which might be another inside reference, since Haysbert actually did some voice acting for Splinter Cell K.satirli 07:16, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Watching an episode last night, looks like some are Motorola's --Mikecraig 22:56, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cystal and Jeremy

These two characters have been in most episodes of the second season... shouldnt they be noted? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Paulley (talk • contribs) 12:41, 1 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] GREY AND WILLIAMS (RANK)

Grey and Williams are mid-level operators. They wouldn't have the same rank as Brown, a newbie to the Unit. Unless somebody has solid evidence I haven't seen proving that Williams and Grey aren't Sergeants First Class, I'm changing their rank to reflect their seniority to Brown. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.174.190.247 (talk • contribs)

I removed their ranks altogether as it is unknown what their rank is. I don't recall it being mentioned in any of the episodes. -- Gogo Dodo 05:58, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree and was gonna say something about it... Nicht Nein! 09:51, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

They're all at least Sergeants, that's for sure. In s2e17 Jonas defines his replacement order as follows: Gerhardt, Grey, Williams and then Brown. Further on only Mack had one the opportunity to command a own squad but declined hence Grey and Williams are below Master Sergeant and probably above Staff Sergeant and probably Sergeants First Class. However either Grey and Williams have no rank prefix or both should have the generic Sergeant prefix. Now Grey has nothing and Williams just Sergeant. SoN --212.41.85.34 00:36, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

In s1e8 during interrogation Williams stated he was a Sergeant, yes this could just be writer mess up since in the episodes they are addressed as sergeant per Army way, but this is the only time where he would have be referred to as his actual rank. I did watch s2e17 last night and remember that statement well, but this is an unconventional unit and rank has little, and unit experience has more, to do with whom can better replace Blane and Gerhardt. Nicht Nein! 02:21, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Explain to me how the newbie to the team would have a higher rank than two seniors.

      -------  Because they quite sensibly recruited the lower ranks first

They're higher than Brown, lower than Gerhardt.

The only logical answer is Sergeant First Class.

And trivia tidbit-in the Army, all sergeants from E-5 to First Sergeant (E-8) are referred to as "sergeant." First Sergeants and Sergeants Major are called by their full rank.

      -------- Exceptionally when informally addressed as "Top"  Jonas is the Colonel's "Topkick"

Believe me-I know what I'm talking about. Grey and Williams are Sergeants First Class. Steven Hildreth, Jr. 19:26, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but just because you have real-life experience doesn't mean that you can definitively say what a television show is trying to do. For all we know they could completely eschew standard grade seniority in favour of their own system...we just don't know. It is precisely for that reason that Wikipedia demands that we only include information when it has been implicitely stated on the show or can be visually confirmed on the show (otherwise, this is called original research. I guarantee most people would agree with your summary of the situation, and I do as well (military as well), but it just isn't information we can use at this time. -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 20:05, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Then what about the book which the show is based upon? It corroborates what I've explained. Steven Hildreth, Jr. 20:37, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

While the show is based on the book, they are not the same thing, and thus cannot be used as references for each other. It is based on the book, not a direct copy. I'm not trying to be a hardass, just trying to point out Wikipedia policy issues. -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 20:39, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, if policy is dictating that editors can't use common sense, can we at least remove the rank from Williams altogether? I think, given the fact that they've only called him "Sergeant" and that we don't know what kind of sergeant he is, Williams and his dossier could be devoid of reference to rank altogether, like Grey's. Steven Hildreth, Jr. 00:25, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Williams' rank was not made Sergeant based on the way he is addressed, it is based on his answer during interrogation. A Lieutenant could enter the Unit and would still be a newbie to other old-timers. All Sergeants from Sergeant to Master Sergeant are addressed as Sergeant in the Army, so this would not be a good way to come about Williams' rank. Nicht Nein! 09:07, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

        ------- if everyone told the truth under interrogation, there would be no need for interrogation

I give up. I did learn one thing, though-bureaucracy and rules don't take into account what makes sense. Have fun editing the pages. Steven Hildreth, Jr. 04:21, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

You do not need to be senior in rank to be senior; your point is pretty childish in my opinion. It is a possibility that Grey and Williams are both E-7 but this is an encyclopedic entry, both can be at E-6 and still have seniority. As this is a TV show their rank might not have even been decided on yet. I agree that removing Williams rank would be a good idea since they could have messed up in the lines for that scene. Nicht Nein! 06:17, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

In Episode 2x17 Johnny B. Good, Blane refers to Grey and Williams as "Sergeants Grey and Williams." So if you're going to use the generic soldier title to give Williams rank, with this reference, you'll have to do the same with Grey.Steven Hildreth, Jr. 05:30, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

That is not the case "generic soldier title" was not used in determining Williams' rank. Nicht Nein! 21:25, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I'd hate to say I told you so with Williams, but...Steven Hildreth, Jr. 03:58, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

More like I told you so; this site is for verifiable fact, not belief. I also agreed that they are probably E7, but that we have not verified it on-screen or in publication. Now that they have given us what we wanted, it can be entered into the wiki entry. Nicht Nein! 10:50, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

It's a verifiable fact that Grey is an NCO. And I don't ever recall an episode of the show that had labeled Williams a buck sergeant, yet people here took that as a fact before the show debunked that. The only time I can think of them referring to Williams as "Sergeant Williams" was in a generic term. Same with Grey but nobody wanted to label him as such.

Whatever, though-water under the bridge. Steven Hildreth, Jr. 19:35, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

I said that during interrogation he stated his rank as Sergeant. Nicht Nein! 09:21, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Williams is clearly seen wearing SFC in the season finale "Paradise Lost".

Yes, as I said "Now that they have given us what we wanted, it can be entered into the wiki entry.", I was referring to that scene. Nicht Nein! 00:06, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Maybe I should let sleeping dogs lay still but...

My conclusion from S2E17, when Jonas defines his replacement order, is that he lists the names by experience rather than by rank.

In the last episode of season 1, do we not see a document from the Department of the Army stating Mack's rank as Master Sergeant?

Is rank even relevant in an elite, covert unit such as the one depicted in the show? As Mark Bowden points out in Killing Pablo, operators can and do use ranks as part of their cover depending upon the dictates of a specific mission. In the case of Williams giving his rank during interrogation during the SERE episode, his statement arguably could have been a part of his maintaining his cover.

Sigaba 00:20, 25 July 2007 (UTC)Sigaba

Grey's rank was shown in "Pandemonium, Part 1". During Ryan's hearing when the team photos were shown, Grey's rank was partially obscured, but the last two words were "First Class". I doubt he is a PFC. =) -- Gogo Dodo 17:24, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw that on their screen, but that is still conjecture you know. This is obviously a joke by the show on the people of wikipedia. LoL Nicht Nein! 00:54, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

I think it is now completely safe to say that Williams' rank was Sergeant First Class.Bunnygod888 03:08, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Been sure about Williams, but now we saw Grey wearing the insignia at the service. Nicht Nein! 15:58, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 24 related trivia

During an episode in Season 1, the team is tasked with the mission to protect a guy named "Salazar". The funny thing is that a person named "Ramon Salazar" was one of the adversaries of Dennis Haysbert in Season 3 of "24". See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24_%28season_3%29 . I think this should be worked into the article too.K.satirli 07:16, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Unless we have a statement from one of the creative people on one of these shows that says that there is a relationship, we can't put it in. Val42 02:47, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

It's trivia. I'm not saying there is a relationship, it's probably just a little easter egg they put in. The only thing that is really confirmed is that Haysbert appears in both shows. K.satirli 07:16, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

And Wikipedia guidelines discouraged trivia sections... let's not add to it. Mduell2 21:52, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Season 3

Any word on a season 3 or cancellation? Cburnett 01:05, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Nothing so far, but it's a pretty safe bet, gaining high ratings all the time K.satirli 16:45, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

The intro for the season 3 is different. does anyone know what song they use for the opening titles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.171.132.27 (talk) 08:30, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

"Walk The Fire", and it's pretty good actually. But sadly it's not a whole song yet.

Somebody updated the page saying that season three will be back on the 29th using a fan-site as a reference. Is that really enough evidence for wikipedia? Wikired5 (talk) 03:15, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Its a re-run on the 29th according to this - Tmaull (talk) 17:22, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Goofs

In S02x02 after 38 minutes, when the team rescues their "fallen" comrade, a camera man is clearly visible on the right hand side of the screen. K.satirli 15:53, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

In episode 15 of season 2 ("The Water is Wide"), The flag of the German Democratic Republic is seen in front of the United Nations building. Unfortunately - for a series set in 2007 - the GDR hasn't been existing since 1990. 1redrun 09:03, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fort Griffith

...could be in Missouri.

Watch Episode 2x23, the scene where Kim Brown makes contact with the CIA man. Study the license plates. They are Missouri license plates and they are all over the cars in the immediate parking lot.

Now, on a military base, you see license plates of all sorts. But with how heavily concentrated the amount of Missouri license plates were, I think it's safe to theorize within the article that Fort Griffith is somewhere in Missouri.

Screenshots can be made available on request.

Steven Hildreth, Jr. 19:07, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Keyword: "theorize". Does not ever belong in a Wikipedia article. As always, see WP:OR. -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 19:40, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Forth Griffith is probably in Missouri. In the season one finale, when Jonas discovers that his wife has used their savings to replace funds stolen from the investment club, the computerized bank statement has "MO 63021" in the Blaines' address

Sigaba 00:10, 25 July 2007 (UTC)Sigaba

[edit] The Unit in Germany

The weekly schedule of the unit in Germany is now thursdays. But I don't know the exact time. --85.176.62.177 19:17, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

The Unit's new time slot is 11:10 pm to 0:10 am (CET). Several websites commenting on the new time slot suggest The Unit isn't doing to well in Germany ("lower single digit quotas" - Translated from: http://www.dwdl.de/article/news_11423,00.html). The Unit has also been critisised by German newspapers (http://www.tagesspiegel.de/medien-news/Medien;art290,2059392). I'm actualy suprised The Unit got picked up in Germany to begin with. It seems the pro-US-Military angle The Unit takes isn't to popular with the German audience. I also suppose age ratings prohibit SAT1 from airing The Unit earlier than 10 pm. 1redrun 09:23, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, I just finished watching season 1 and I got to say it´s not the "pro-US-Military angle" that disappoints me, it´s just boring. The article makes the same point: Just another agents/soldier vs. terrorists tv series.Markus Becker02 (talk) 01:53, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't really believe that anti-us-military-resentiments are really the problem. If that were the case, 24 wouldn't be so popular (yeah, it is not Military per se, but …) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.95.26.194 (talk) 12:04, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm from Germany and I watch it in english and german I think the unit isn't well-known here in Germany. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.245.33.145 (talk) 13:58, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chain of Command

I am not so sure that COL Ryan reports directly to the President. After all, all that hoopla with the Lt. General in Season 2 finale shows that there is some break between Ryan and the Commander in Chief doesn't it? Arnabdas 21:04, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Watching "In Loco Parentis" the other night, it showed him talking to the President regarding the US soil hostage situation. Maybe he was calling from the White House Siutation Room and he is giving the orders to the Colonel from there? Is that the norm? Does the NSC/National Security Advisor normally give the missions/green light instead of the President directly? --Mikecraig 22:22, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Weapons ?

Can some one list the weapons used by the unit members --Max Mayr 21:47, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Season 2 - Region 4 (Australia)

Hi, does anyone know when the Season 2 set will be released for Region 4? --Mikecraig 22:57, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New theme

I love the new theme song!! I want to know who sings and if they m,ade a full version of it. Does anyone know either of the above. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.46.1.40 (talk) 05:23, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

The new theme song is terrible. Note to producers, either change it back to the original theme song or make something much better —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.171.132.27 (talk) 06:49, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

I like it much better; I hated the old cadence. Nicht Nein! 11:22, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] JONAS BLANE RANK (SGM and not CSM)

Please note that Jonas Blane rank is Sergeant Major (SGM) and not Command Sergeant Major (CSM). This is clearly stated in the show more than once. When Blane wears the uniform with ranks (Army Green Uniform or ACU - Army Combat Uniform) his rank insignias are always the Sergeant Major ones.

A Command Sergeant Major (CSM) is never in charge of small tactical teams like the one shown in The Unit. It is instead correct using the rank of Sergeant Major (SGM) for the SNCOIC (Senior Non-Commissioned Office in Charge) of the team as represented in the TV show. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.216.232.145 (talk • contribs)

You don't seem to understand that this is not a "small tactical team" but a 'command' and he would not wear his actual rank insignia because that would prompt questions such as "what command are you the command sergeant major of?" Fiddling with uniforms for operational purposes is not unheard of.

In the opening episode of the season he stated his rank as Command Sergeant Major; "I am Command Sergeant Major Jonas Blane". He might have taken a promotion some time between the last time it was recorded he was Sergeant Major.

I don't think it is smart to bring up real life protocol, etcetera, to back up something in a TV show that has been contradicted on screen. Mistakes are always made, whether it be deliberately or accidental. It is a TV show.

During the service on a non wide-screen representation I can barely see Jonas' rank insignia in full, it does look like SGM insignia, but I can't be sure. --< Nicht Nein! (talk) 18:13, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Figures, I just deleted the episode off my DVR. Anyways, I can confirm the above that Jonas states his rank as CSM and one certainly think that he would know his own rank. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 06:00, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Gogo Dodo, in the last episodes Jonas is always called SGM and not CSM. I know this is a TV show but in more than one occurence the rank as shown on-screen is SGM and not CSM. I have the last HDTV episode, 3.8 (Play 16) and the rank is SGM. I do not recall the opening episode of season 3 but I think the evidence for SGM is stronger (on screen image). Please have a look again at episode 3.8 - the scene of the service in the church - and you will clearly see the SGM rank. I will stop correcting the article until you have seen the evidence and you are genuinely convinced that Jonas rank is SGM. If needed I can upload the on-screen evidence of Jonas rank. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.189.166.15 (talk) 10:42, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, I am convinced they might have made a mistake in Jonas' lines, but I also am convinced that they might have not updated his "costume" for such a "small" scene. I think it would be a good idea anyway to upload a picture of him during the service, whether or not it is for convincing; though I am convinced he was wearing SGM insignia.

Also, regularly, people that should know better address Jonas as Sergeant. Inside his command and out. This is a mistake in writing and not a sign of blatant disregard for custom. I would not be surprised if they meant for Jonas to be CSM but were still writing in for him to be addressed as SGM. --< Nicht Nein! (talk) 16:51, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Ah, continuity errors. It happens. I watched the episode on CBS and there is indeed one since the rank on Jonas' uniform does appear to be SGM. However, as noted above he stated his rank as CSM. To "fix" this problem, I added in the continuity error note. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 21:20, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

As far as continuity goes I think speaking his rank out loud has greater bearing than going on his uniform. Also, this isn't the place, but I've been trying to get this understood for awhile: Is Command Sergeant Major the equal of Master Gunnery Sergeant, or is Master Gunnery Sergeant as to Sergeant Major(Army)? 70.129.159.159 17:53, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree that speaking has more bearing than uniform, that is why I had changed it.

Command Sergeant Major is to Sergeant Major (USMC), as Sergeant Major (Army) is to Master Gunnery Sergeant. In the Marine Corps, you have Gunnery Sergeant, Master Sergeant, Master Gunnery Sergeant. At E7 in your fitrep you specify whether or not you wish you be selected for the command route or technical route. For the command route you would go to become a First Sergeant and then be locked in that track, later to become a Sergeant Major if promoted to E9. In the Army it is not as strict since you can be promoted laterally or "diagonally" but you have First Sergeant (Command) and then Command Sergeant Major (Command) as well as Master Sergeant (Technical) and then Sergeant Major (Technical) depending on promo track. --< Nicht Nein! 01:14, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

One thing to keep in mind when the operators give their ranks is the context. At the drop of a hat, they will give false names, ranks, units, and even services if doing so will advance the mission.Sigaba (talk) 18:22, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Size of the unit

I have changed the size of the unit from ( 60 to 250 ) into 130 operators based on what Col.Ryan told Molly on episode 6 of season 1 --Blain Toddi (talk) 22:58, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jonas's Rank

There was no discrepancy with regards to Jonas's rank. The earlier editor said that Blane indicated he was a Sargent Major and then stated he was a Command Sargent Major. The two are not mutually exclusive. Every command unit has a highest ranking enlisted person. This is what Command Sargent Major means. Joan is a Sargent Major in rank; and holds the title of Command Sargent Major within his unit as he is the senior enlisted person of that command. 206.125.176.3 (talk) 14:25, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

That is an interesting assumption, but that is not the case; he is not "the unit's" Command Sergeant Major. --< Nicht Nein! (talk) 14:41, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

  Command Sergeant Major is a rank, not a title.  There is a difference between a unit and a command.  Given that a full colonel
  is in charge, "the unit" is probably a "command".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.49.77.67 (talk) 05:35, 23 April 2008 (UTC) 

Oh really; then who is? All indications are that he is the senior enlisted man in the unit. Any proof that he is not? Does Jonas take any orders from any other enlisted personnel? The only orders that he takes that I'm aware of are from Col. Ryan or the President in a few episodes. 206.125.176.3 (talk) 16:33, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Review the Trivia section of The Unit page to find out who is the last documented CSM of the 303rd. Also, he wouldn't need to be taking orders from the principle NCO. That is not the way "the Unit" works. Furthermore, I doubt they would want to introduce a new character just for a few functions every other episode; why do you think they "deleted" Hector? Not enough screen time for five members! --< Nicht Nein! (talk) 07:41, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] False Rumor?

The CBS website and official site of The Unit do not mention anything about the show's return on April 29, 2008. I believe mention of this should be removed. Another piece of news that does not alllude to the show's return this spring: http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/04/the-unit-may-re.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.111.54.57 (talk) 00:18, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

I removed that particular item as the CBS schedule proves that false. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:13, 29 April 2008 (UTC)