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Contents 1 the 1700s? 2 Images lost ? 3 City location? 4 This plot sounds VERY familiar 5 Historical analogue 6 Fair use rationale for Image:Tripods-title.jpg 7 Love interest 8 Vocabulary 9 Dates

[edit] the 1700s?

the 1700s were not a period of technological stagnation. i don't understand WHAT you are talking about

I think the point is that people are living in the equivalent of this time period but because of mind control have no means to advance beyond this. --ChrisJMoor 15:51, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Images lost ?

What happened to the images ? Rama 21:56, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] City location?

"... (The Tripods, it turns out, actually have three cities: one near Berlin, ..."

"... the Tripod city, which is located in a sealed, pressurized dome that sits astride a river (presumably the Rhine) ..."

There's an inconsistency here. —wwoods 03:27, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

On a global scale, it's not inconsistent. —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 04:12, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This plot sounds VERY familiar

Did L. Ron Hubbard rip this off for his Battlefield Earth series? 68.152.95.130 18:15, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Having just looked at the Battlefield Earth novel's entry on Wikipedia (it's a series?!?) I'd say maybe not. (I've never read it, and don't intend to.) Keep in mind that The Tripods backstory is essentially cribbed from H.G. Wells' "War of the Worlds," as noted in the article. Hubbard could have done the same, but there's no mention of it there. Science fiction abounds with post-apoc alien occupation stories. salamurai 19:33, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Historical analogue

Could somebody comment on the similarity between the Tripod occupation and World War II? Is there a critical source which says this? 71.199.114.44 17:19, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Tripods-title.jpg

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[edit] Love interest

In the TV series section, the article notes the following "divergence" between the book and the movie:

... love interests for both Will and Beanpole. The original texts have almost no female characters at all.

However, under the plot of "The White Mountains", it's stated:

Will forms a strong relationship with their preteen daughter, Eloise, and is heartbroken when Eloise ... must then go off to serve the Tripods in their domed city.

Then under The Cities of the Masters in Vocabulary it says:

The cities include ... a display of taxidermically preserved humans. It is here that Will discovers the horribly preserved body of Eloise, ... arranged in an array of red-headed females ... to demonstrate the variations in human hair color.

Again, I don't have the books to hand to give exact citations, nor have I read them in the last few years, but I pretty well recall that a key plot element of "The White Mountains" was Will's falling in love with the aforementioned French girl Eloise, who nursed him back to health, and then in "The City of Gold and Lead" that the motivation for him to finally struggle to escape the Masters' city was his finding her preserved body in a museum, as discussed above. In the meantime, I'm also slapping a {{fact}} tag on that sentence. --Eliyahu S ^Talk 22:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

"almost no female characters" implies there is at least one. A display of preserved bodies, however, does not make them characters. I always thought the notation of Eloise in G&L was there to point up the aliens' disregard for humans but fascination with the variations in physiology, as there was no indication of sexual differences in the Masters. ( ... I'm getting off the subject.) Eloise is the only female character I recall from the story, other than mothers, which were incidental. The prequel book does have a couple of female characters in it. Salamurai 02:44, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

While "almost no" does admit of an exception, that was not the main thrust of my remark. My point was that Will already had a "love interest" in the books, and in fact, even if Eloise was unique, Will's love for her was pivotal in his actions in two of the three books in the series: In the first book, her selection by the Masters is what wakes Will from his idyll and returns him to his original quest for a land free of the Masters; in the second book, discovering her preserved body renews his desire for vengeance, which overcomes the familiarity and comfortable accomodation he'd found with his relatively easygoing Master in the City. One could make a case for Omnia vincit Amor as a sub-theme in the books, and yet the idea of Will having a love interest is described as a "divergence" with the TV series. Makes no sense to me.--Eliyahu S ^Talk 12:45, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vocabulary

Vocabulary - far too much unnecessary detail???

Someone deleted a whole section. Shouldn't it be discussed first? --217.184.90.19 09:01, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Not every edit needs to be discussed. The heading was misleading, and the section was huge. There's no need for that level of detail, Wikipedia is not an in-depth guide to the series. This article is start class for a reason. Adding large chunks of redundant info (most of it is expressed concisely further up the page) will not improve the article. Geoff B 09:35, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

There is a remarkable similarity of the Tripods' shape and the machines used by the martians in HG Wells' War of the Worlds, sheer conincidence? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.239.179.128 (talk) 18:14, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Author John Christopher used tripods as a way to pay tribute to HG Wells' story. Michael24 13:02, 8 February 2008

[edit] Dates

I'm going to eliminate all mentions of specific dates for when the books took place from the article. No specific date is mentioned in When the Tripods Came, and in The White Mountains Ozymandias tells Will it had been 100 years since the Tripods took over. —The President of Cool (talk) 00:46, 26 April 2008 (UTC)