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[edit] casinos

could anyone with the proper information and sources put up something about the upcoming casinos and the laws regarding them (slots only? table games? how many casinos?). thanks!


[edit] start

Just put something up to start the article -- I'm realizing now that there is a pretty standard format to the geography articles. I'm not up to doing that yet, so here's an open invitation to wikify!

Bantman 19:25, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Correction (take it from someone who hikes county highpoints): the highest Pocono peak is not Ararat (thank God ... it is, or at least used to be, an unforgiving bushwhack to a viewless summit), it's Elk Hill just across the Susquehanna county line.


Daniel Case 01:07 EST, 21 Jan 2005

some correction required:


I've removed mention of "commercialized" Dingman's Falls as opposed to the "free admission" state park, since I didn't see anyone asking me for money when I photoed Dingman's Falls for the Delaware Water Gap National Recreation Area entry. I think the original poster may have been thinking of Bushkill Falls, which is owned by a resort of that name, but until someone takes up the arduous task of trying to list every resort in the Poconos I don't think I should mention that on its own. Mike Serfas 23:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Map added

I added a regional map showing the Poconos in relation to the northeast Appalachians; the same map added to Catskill Mountains page. It could be improved, hopefully it is useful. Pfly 00:09, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Add a link

Hi my name is Dave Kovaleski, I am a REALTOR in The Pocono area of Pennsylavania. I see that there are no links to any real estate related websites in the Pocono area of your site. The fact that many potential home buyers may use this site as a means to discover information on the area before moving it may be a good idea to offer a link to a pocono real estate related web site my url is www.poconoareamls.com if you could please take a look and consider adding the link.

Thank you in advance for your consideration.


Dave from Pa —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.105.223.200 (talk) 17:01, 4 February 2007 (UTC).

Dave, your link would be considered commercial advertising and not appropriate for an encyclopedia. (It probably shouldn't even be allowed on this talk page.) If it were allowed, every other real estate agent would have to be allowed to put their link also. It would no longer be an article strictly about the Poconos anymore, would it? A large part of it would be about real estate in the Poconos. Also, every real estate agent gets to state his or her own opinion based on commercial interest which would not have to be factual, as an encyclopedia should be. Anyway, thanks for your suggestion, and I hope you are understanding. 71.59.102.86 16:03, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Great Wolf Lodge

Hi.

I was just wondering if there is anyone out there who is as upset as I am. About Great Wolf Lodge. And the trees that once were over by the truck Stop. And our school districts. And our property taxes. And our wild life. And our fields, fast becoming houses on quarter acre lots.

If so, please contact me so I don't feel like I am the only person in the Poconos who has taken notice and is subsequently pissed off about it. But pissed in the ready to do something about it kind of thing. But it's all about numbers...

julia.angelina@gmail.com

Juls914 00:13, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Culture

The culture section is poorly written and the data presented is spurious, suggest deletion (or a rewrite if someone more knowledgeable is able) Aestiva 03:50, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I believe that the "culture" sections points to an interesting demographic phenomenon, and I fail to see what makes it poorly written. It could use some citations though. 209.117.86.23 20:33, 6 June 2007 (UTC)nepahenry

I just stumbled across this page, and would have to agree. The so called "Culture" section could use some work. I don't believe a "Culture" section on Wikipedia generally means personal opinions. Clearly the writer has some sort of agenda. I'm from way across the country, and am just making a personal observation. Iamopie 04:16, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

This "culture" section, as it is, is nothing more than a poorly guised hostile complaint about the lower classes of metropolitan new york. At no point does it even bother to address the cultural makeup of the region itself. I'm erasing it in its entirety. 38.102.20.230 05:29, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Geography

The geography section should say something about the Pocono Plateau. Pocono Plateau

Range Type Highland or plateau
Highest Point Moosic Mountains High Point (2323 ft/708 m)
Countries United States
States/Provinces Pennsylvania
Area 1,966 sq mi / 5,093 sq km
Area may include lowland areas
Extent 52 mi / 83 km North-South
69 mi / 111 km East-West
Center Lat/Long 41° 11' N; 75° 21' W
Map Link Microsoft Local.Live Map

Search Engines - search the web for "Pocono Plateau":
     Plateau%22 Microsoft Live Search
     Plateau%22 Google Search
     Plateau%22 Yahoo Search
 

Other Ranges: To go to pages for other ranges click on range names in the hierarchy snapshot below, which show the parent, siblings, and children of the Pocono Plateau.
Allegheny Plateau Level 4 (Parent)
        Northern Allegheny Plateau Level 5 (Sibling)
        Finger Lakes Level 5 (Sibling)
        Northeastern Pennsylvania Level 5 (Sibling)
         Pocono Plateau Level 5
        Southern Allegheny Plateau Level 5 (Sibling)



Major Peaks of the Pocono Plateau

Ten Highest Peaks
Rank Peak Name ft m Range6
1. Moosic Mountains High Point 2323 708  
2. Kistler Ledge 2215 675  
3. Pimple Hill 2212 674  
4. Lake Mountain 2180+ 664+  
5. Camelback Mountain 2133 650  
6. Pike County High Point 2115 645  
7. Split Rock 2060+ 628+  
8. High Knob 2040+ 622+  
9. Montage Mountain 2000+ 610+  
10. Low Knob 1996 608  
Sub-peaks are excluded from this list. List may not be complete, since only summits in the PBC Database are included.

Taken from: http://www.peakbagger.com/range.aspx?rid=16203


Geology, Geomorphology, Geohydrology, and Surface Water Hydrology of the Pocono Creek Basin

The Pocono Creek basin is encompassed by two physiographic provinces, the Appalachian Plateau in the northern part of the watershed and the Valley and Ridge in the southern part. The Pocono Escarpment subdivides the Appalachian Plateau province into the Pocono Plateau section in the northwest and the Glaciated Low Plateau section to the southeast. The Appalachian Plateau province is categorized by gently folded rocks of Devonian age, and more than 75% of the watershed lies within its boundaries. The Appalachian Mountain section of the Valley and Ridge province occupies the remainder of the watershed and is characterized by more intensely deformed sedimentary rocks also of Devonian age.

Taken from: http://www.state.nj.us/drbc/pocono_geology.PDF --evrik (talk) 14:58, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chronic Commercial & Off Topic Links

This is not the first time this article had to be cleaned of commercial & off topic links. The most glaring examples are the links to Caesars Pocono Resort and to Judaism in the Poconos. There were links to buy a book, search and book a hotel, and general local advertising. These things don't belong in the article. Please check the Wikipedia rules on this matter before inserting these types of links. 71.59.102.86 09:51, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Two more links that need addressing

Whoever has been editing this page is finally helping (Thank you !)

The references at the bottom of the page need a little cleaning 1) Tanglwood - Website (possibly the ski area - No answer at their phone) is gone and currently showing a spammy page based in Brazil. 2) Poconovacations.com is a commercial entity (understatement)

Kudos to all that are taking the time to clean up what was really a mess here! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.128.21 (talk) 15:12, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

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