Talk:The Partridge Family

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[edit] SAN PUEBLO

The town where the Partridge Family lived was a fictional town located in Northern CALI. References taken directly from PF episodes indicate a Bay Area location, specifically "40 miles [from] Napa County", which is located near San Francisco in the Northern part of California. If you can find any evidence that they lived in Southern Cali please let us know. Outside of Chris being a "Dodger's fan" and a couple of gigs in Los Angeles, we can't place them in Southern CALI. The idea that they lived in Southern CALI perhaps comes from confusion with the Brady's, or a mistaken FAQ on a misinformed fansite somewhere. Please research before making changes like that, thank you dear.ShirleyPartridge (talk) 08:42, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

I think you are right about confusion with the Brady's. There was a Saturday Night Live sketch with Susan Dey that had the Partridges living "down the street" from the Brady's. Thank you for clarifying that.DATBUS (talk) 22:28, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] PEOPLE'S WORK

Deleting an entire section that has taken many months to develop is not helpful to anyone. "References in Popular Culture" incorporates information without having any "Trivia".ShirleyPartridge (talk) 09:24, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Please make sure that any changes you make to this article are both correct, and necessary.

[edit] POV?

  • "a feeble effort was made by the producers to breathe new life into the show"
  • "the Partridge Family's records were some of the best arranged and produced of their day"
Fair enough, I will repair this.

Wasn't there a kid named 'Adam' on later shows? He was a lot younger than the others.


No, there was no "Adam" on the Partridge Family. In the final season there was a "Ricky", already cited in the article. Also Reuben Kincaid had a nephew in one of the last season episodes, his name was "Alan".

[edit] Images

Over the past month, a contributor has been repeatedly violating Wikipedia image use policy by uploading images without source information, fair use rationale, or consideration for replaceability. I blocked this contributor from editing after he/she neglected to address these concerns, or engage in any dialogue. Since then, this contributor has created multiple sockpuppets to evade this block and continue to violate image policy. This brings a severe but necessary solution: until there is a conversation about where these images come from and how they may be used, I am removing all of them from the article and temporarily semi-protecting it. ˉˉanetode╦╩ 23:26, 29 May 2007 (UTC)


Some Wikipedia procedures should be examined more carefully, the loss of those great bus images really ruined this wonderful article. What you call "protecting" is questionable, since the page was of a much higher quality before you took the action you did.
"Editors" should work more closely with the "violators" as you call them, to help them contribute within these rules and regulations, rather than sabotage their work. A more direct and communicative approach would be better.
Blocking IP addresses is not a good solution. It is relatively easy to access multiple addresses and edit through them, should someone wish to do so.
You should especially examine the manner in which editors are given power to make these decisions, since clearly some people's judgment is not worthy of that authority, and sometimes inferior to the very people whose efforts they are sabotaging.

[edit] Father

I thought for sure this would be answered in a Wikipedia article, but...

...where's the father in the show? Has he ever been mentioned in the series? Is he dead? Divorced?? In a Vietnam P.O.W. camp??? (Hey, it was the early '70's). I watched the show alot as a kid over the years and I don't remember this issue ever coming up.

(Personally I think it was either Ruben Kincaid, in a bizarre Empire Strikes Back twist OR Mike Brady was a polygamist and raised two families. The Partridges in northern California and the Bradys further south. That would explain the extended out of town business trips.) Jack Meihoffer 04:43, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Your question is already answered in the first sentence, "a widowed mother". Mr. Partridge "died unexpectedly" 6 months prior to the start of the series, leaving Shirley struggling to support 5 children. He was only mentioned briefly in 2 episodes during the first season, never to be referenced again.
The Mike Brady joke is not funny.

[edit] BITING

I do recall this from an interview though I can't remember where. I know you've listed sources already, but the formatting is incorrect. I added a link where you can cite the specific source about Jeremy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DATBUS (talk • contribs) 01:30, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Shirley, do not return material that violates WP:BLP without having appropriate sources. From the POLICY on living persons : "Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material — whether negative, positive, or just questionable — about living persons should be removed immediately and without waiting for further discussion" Trout Ice Cream (talk) 02:27, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
The comments about biting DC are sourced in the interviews of the show's producers, which are listed at the end of the article. However after talking about this I do think it's in Jeremy's best interest to leave the edit as is, without the biting comment. I believe Trout could have handled this better, like maybe creating a citation and linking it to the source himself, but I'm fine with leaving it out, it is a bit 'gossipy'. ShirleyPartridge (talk) 03:15, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
I refer Shirley to verifiable. "The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material". Using inline citations would help show that the claim is supported by a reliable source. I do not have time to read through several books to find out whether a random claim in this article is actually supported by material and thus does not violate WP:BLP. Trout Ice Cream (talk) 04:00, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
Well darling, as far as I can see, no one asked you to in the first place. And Jeremy Gelbwaks is not the only living person in this article, in fact the entire cast is still with us. Besides we've already done all the research. I've just never created a sourced citation before, this is all quite new to me. You could have taken a more helpful approach. Either way, even though the comment was sourced, your rudeness is forgiven, and your deletion has been honored.ShirleyPartridge (talk) 05:10, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
Darling, I believe someone (in fact you) did in fact request that I do your work for you. May I quote: " I believe Trout could have handled this better, like maybe creating a citation and linking it to the source himself".
Again, I refer you to actually read WP:V. But I will make it easy for you and highlight some information about the WP policy here:
  • "page in a nutshell: Material challenged or likely to be challenged, and all quotations, must be attributed to a reliable, published source."
  • article content should be "attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation"
  • "Any edit lacking a reliable source may be removed "
  • If you want to request a source for an unsourced statement, consider moving it to the talk page. Alternatively, you may tag a sentence by adding the {{fact}} template, a section with {{unreferencedsection}}, or the article with {{refimprove}} or {{unreferenced}}.
I understand that you may not be familiar with WP citation procedures. That is why in my first message on your talk page, I provided the link to the guidelines (here it is again WP:CITE). I am not sure what else I could have done other than repeating the guideline on this page, doing the work of properly citing the article for you or removing the material completely.Trout Ice Cream (talk) 11:49, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
I understand that you may not be familiar with WP citation procedures. That is why in my first message on your talk page, I provided the link to the guidelines (here it is again WP:CITE). I am not sure what else I could have done other than repeating the guideline on this page, doing the work of properly citing the article for you or removing the material completely.Trout Ice Cream (talk) 11:49, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
Trout let me share my concerns with you. So far you've made a couple of drastic edits that were based on not reading the article properly. There was no need for you make comments like "sources, sources, where are the sources???" when the sources were clearly listed in the article already. But that didn't stop you from adding a "no sources" tag. Then, after reverting DATBUS's inline citation, you added a "No Inline Citations" tag to the article. Then you changed the word "Hit" to "Song"... I mean really? The song was on Billboards Top 40, and featured on Network Televison programs like Living Color. This pretty much qualifies it as a "Hit". Is this really what you want to spend your time doing? The other comments I see written in the history by you are equally loopy and cryptic sounding. "footy, footy, footy". These contributions seem less helpful and more on the petty, condescending side. Of course all this is quite is forgivable, but an apology wouldn't hurt, especially considering you are jumping into a page that was constructed before your arrival. And for the record I did not invite you to edit on this page, you did that all on your own. If you want to be helpful, then perhaps you could come to the discussion page first and offer your knowledge and skills in a useful way. You appear to know about Wikipedia rules and have some good information for us, I suggest that you do it through discussion and respectful communication. Otherwise you're coming across like a bit of a jerk, and that's never helpful.ShirleyPartridge (talk) 23:14, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
Removing material that violates WP:BLP policy is not something that one needs to be 'invited' to do, nor apologize for. Trout Ice Cream (talk) 23:27, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
No, just everything else I just finished pointing out.[[1]] ShirleyPartridge (talk) 00:30, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Looking back through my 'loopy' edit history, I see nothing rude or hostile or approaching personal attacks, but it does appear that you are upset by my presence and for that I apologize. Trout Ice Cream (talk) 02:33, 13 March 2008 (UTC) I make a peace offering of a cookie, and hope that you dont hate me forever.
Trout Ice Cream (talk) 02:43, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Oh my, hate is quite a strong word. And besides, it wasn't you, just your behavior. ShirleyPartridge (talk) 03:00, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Band Members

Since the actual bandmembers are already referenced in the article, perhaps the formatting of the bandmembers should be revised. Also, why include Ron Hicklin but not the Wrecking Crew? ShirleyPartridge (talk) 22:07, 3 May 2008 (UTC)