Talk:The Mary Tyler Moore Show
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[edit] Trivia section
Gone! I took care of it. Please let me know if I did anything wrong. I moved some stuff around and created a new category. Honestly, I am proud. Yup. Native Minnesotan. ronnycary 07:39, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Mary's car
I have a question that I haven't been able to answer. I'm having to go on memory only. I need to know if Mary had a Mustang, Mack 1 - white! It was shown in the beginning of the show...........outside of her apartment, in the snow. If it could be posted what she actually drove.....that would be great....If it is a Mustang, then I now where my love for Mustangs began! Thanks, Linda
- Yes, you have that right. It was shown in the first season opener - maybe a season or two after that too, but the whole bit of her driving her Mustang was in the first season opening credits. Moncrief 21:17, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)
- >Opening credits devised by Reza S. Badiyi show Mary departing from (the fictional) Roseburg, Minnesota, heading towards the Twin Cities in her white 1970 Ford Mustang.
- from: http://www.jyanet.com/mtm/season1.shtml . See that site and click on different seasons' opening credits information for how the credits (and the use of the car) evolved. Moncrief 21:21, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)
The car is actually a 1970 Coupe, not a Mach 1. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.181.197.233 (talk) 06:46, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] The Mary Tyler Moore Show
The name of the show is not Mary Tyler Moore. The syndicated reruns, the DVDs sanctioned by the production company, and the web listings are all in agreement on that, and so is the Complete Directory to Primetime Shows. Mike H 07:57, May 6, 2005 (UTC)
- IMDB doesn't though. Cburnett 08:13, May 6, 2005 (UTC)
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- IMDB is edited by people, just like Wikipedia, and is subject to errors. Mike H 09:13, May 6, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Reference removal
Article (Star Tribune) referenced for "costar" Hazel Frederick was erased (site says most articles are deleted after 3 weeks). Clarityfiend 19:23, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Puzzled
the music for the, Love is all around, seems to have two writers Reg Presley The other being Sonny Curtis, could anyone solve this puzzle regards
[edit] Last air date
The last original episode was aired on March 19, 1977, but the show was on CBS primetime in reruns until September 3, 1977. Shouldn't that date be considered the show's last? Opinions?
- I vote for March. IMO, reruns don't count. Clarityfiend 08:35, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] article title
What's the source for the title "The Mary Tyler Moore Show"? The series title card reads Mary Tyler Moore. I would see this as the defining element in the name of the series, rather than the nickname people use for it to differentiate from the actress. I propose a move to Mary Tyler Moore (TV series) or some such similar disambiguate. —scarecroe (talk) 22:54, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
- Plenty of evidence (most of it documented over at the related conversation on Muppet Wiki. It was the title used by MTM on all scripts, show tickets, in press releases, on every home video release, in TV Guide listings and articles (at the time and to promote its debut, not just retrospectives), in all Emmy submissions to the Academy of Television Arts and Sciences (and thus it was the title used for the actual awards), and so on. In the 1991 reunion special hosted by Moore (Mary Tyler Moore 20th Anniversary Show), whenever the show is mentioned by name (they suually just call it "the show" or talk about "the experience" and so on), it's The Mary Tyler Moore Show, and the closing credits include a note that "The Mary Tyler Moore Show and its characters are fictional...." and so on. Music cues for the series are registed with ASCAP as Mary Tyler Moore Show Cues and so on. So it's not just a nickname. The on-screen title graphic, which also serves as Moore's credit, is the only exception, and so in this case, I think all the other evidence trumps it. -- Aleal (talk) 01:21, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
- According to TV Land to Go ISBN:0684856158 "By the way, it is Mary Tyler Moore, and not The Mary Tyler Moore Show. The producers and Mary herself made that a distinct choice. They felt the latter title would imply the show was all about Mary, while the former implied the ensemble show they were creating." So the use of The...Show appears only to have been a promotional title. —scarecroe (talk) 03:00, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
- A quick glance through a variety of what would generally be considered reliable sources all style it as The Mary Tyler Moore Show. Even if the quote cited from TV Land to Go accurately describes the intention of the producers and Mary herself, it certainly does not reflect the reality of how the show is commonly known.The Museum of Broadcast Television, TIME magazine, TV.com and so on. older ≠ wiser 03:38, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
- It was definitely not just a promotional title. It was used on scripts, internal documents and things like the show tickets (which were *not* a means of promotion but the identification used by the studio and producers to determine how audiences for sitcoms taped live would be organized). The TV Land to Go statement is not a direct quote from anyone and no source. I'm working my way through a 1991 Mary Tyler Moore reunion (one of three such but the only one I have access to, and all differently titled) and so far, if they have to name it, Moore and the cast call it The Mary Tyler Moore Show. And again, there's the Emmy Awards which do *not* use promotional titles but those submitted by the producers or stars. -- Aleal (talk) 04:10, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
- Andrew posted some hard visual evidence on the Muppet Wiki discussion linked above. I'm taking the move tag off this page. Thanks for the clarification! —scarecroe (talk) 04:16, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
- It was definitely not just a promotional title. It was used on scripts, internal documents and things like the show tickets (which were *not* a means of promotion but the identification used by the studio and producers to determine how audiences for sitcoms taped live would be organized). The TV Land to Go statement is not a direct quote from anyone and no source. I'm working my way through a 1991 Mary Tyler Moore reunion (one of three such but the only one I have access to, and all differently titled) and so far, if they have to name it, Moore and the cast call it The Mary Tyler Moore Show. And again, there's the Emmy Awards which do *not* use promotional titles but those submitted by the producers or stars. -- Aleal (talk) 04:10, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
- A quick glance through a variety of what would generally be considered reliable sources all style it as The Mary Tyler Moore Show. Even if the quote cited from TV Land to Go accurately describes the intention of the producers and Mary herself, it certainly does not reflect the reality of how the show is commonly known.The Museum of Broadcast Television, TIME magazine, TV.com and so on. older ≠ wiser 03:38, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
- According to TV Land to Go ISBN:0684856158 "By the way, it is Mary Tyler Moore, and not The Mary Tyler Moore Show. The producers and Mary herself made that a distinct choice. They felt the latter title would imply the show was all about Mary, while the former implied the ensemble show they were creating." So the use of The...Show appears only to have been a promotional title. —scarecroe (talk) 03:00, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Bone Chilling Cold
Hey, I'd walk a thousand miles and back in the freezing cold up hill both ways for hyperbole, but describing Minneapolis in May as "bone-chilling cold" is a bit much.
Average early May temperature is 65 degrees F and while this day was unseasonably cold at 50, it was hardly bone-chilling. 12.202.209.46 (talk) 01:43, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
