Talk:The Great Mouse Detective

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"Basil Rathbone, [...] whose last film role was as the voice of Holmes in this film." Given that Rathbone died almost 20 years before this film was made, surely his "performance" was assembled from old audio? If so, it's worth noting the fact, or removing the reference. Blufive 21:03, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I had wondered about that, but am embarrassed to admit that I never thought of comparing the release date to Rathbone's death date. I may be being unfair, but I automatically suspect that the fault lies with an uncritical reading of IMDb's Basil Rathbone filmography, which lists The Great Mouse Detective as his most recent role without specifying that it was archive material. --Paul A 07:05, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Probably true; I didn't do any fact-checking when I added a reference to the main Sherlock Holmes article. However some searching uncovered this site, a fan page for Rathbone which cites his voice in the film as being sampled from the "record" of The Red-Headed League. We should amend both this and the main Holmes article to note the posthumous nature of his performance and the possible source, with our source cited. -- Guybrush 13:08, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Er...I went and made the edit, but it just occurred to me I probably should have waited for a response here first. Sorry, I haven't been invited to a discussion like this before. Of course, feel free to revise my edit as you see fit. -- Guybrush 13:30, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Not a problem. Be bold in correcting pages! --Paul A 03:24, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] First villain to die without uncertainty?

The trivia section states that "[t]he Great Mouse Detective is the first Disney animated film to have its villain die without uncertainty (as in obviously dead, but not in a dark manner)". Maybe I'm misreading this, but I thought the villains of Snow White, Sleeping Beauty and The Black Cauldron were killed in pretty definitive ways, too. 81.233.52.27 16:56, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

About the part involving only two villains surviving for more than one film (three, counting hades), shouldn't Gaston count among those as well? I mean, unlike the other disney villains that died in one film (including Ratigan) his final fate was actually debatable by several fans of BATB. I know this, because, 1. His article actually stated that Gaston's final fate was debatable, and 2. I am also somewhat skeptible towards whether he died or not, since i am sure that he might have survived that fall in the ravine. And also, in regards to the ones you have mentioned, The evil Queen/Witch, although we haven't exactly seen her corpse, did have Vultures coming down to feast on her presumed remains, and plus we saw a boulder fall down with her. Maleficent was visually impaled (not to mention that she was also bleeding onscreen) and fell down a fiery pit. And The Horned King was sucked into the cauldron, and also collapsed into a heap as he was sucked in (then again, he never was alive anyways, considering that he was nothing more than animated bones.) all three of those, by the way, pretty dark.

we're not sure if ratigan died, but the newspaper that details the commendation that basil received from the queen also said on the side "time runs out for ratigan". 64.91.201.195 22:38, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Dude, Ratigan's DEAD. He was knocked off the Big Ben for crying out loud!!! The force from the fall from the height the of Big Ben would have caused him to be torn apart limb-from-limb. While falling, gravity pulls you down to earth quickly, so, he would have died on impact from a fall like that. 68.165.6.20 (talk) 17:10, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

^If you were directing that comment towards me, I wasn't even HINTING that he survived (as a matter of fact, the ONLY Disney character that I have doubts of his dying was Gaston). Also, about Ratigan being dead. I won't deny that he's dead, but I don't think that his fall should be used as proof that he died. If I recall correctly, Not counting the likes of Wile E. Coyote or Jessie, James, and Meowth, Ariel survived a pretty huge fall into a maelstorm (By my calculations, it's height is between falling off the tallest tower into a ravine or the Big Ben, give or take), which, If we take the physics of what would happen from the force of the fall into account, Ariel's body would have been shattered by the impact. Also, hate to break it to you, but Ratigan's cape was torn to shreads by the time he dueled Basil.

~~Weedle_McHairybug~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.32.186.225 (talk) 13:15, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

UNLESS he figured out some super genius means of using his cape as a hang glider or something like that. - Buddy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.76.138.251 (talk) 03:41, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wait, WHAT?!

Ok, there was apparantly a sequel for this movie in the works listed on here, and it's due for 2011, but, I thought that Lassester said that there won't be any more sequels to its animated features? I mean, wouldn't that contradict that statement? I mean, if it was a theatrical sequel (I mean, he did mention that there won't be any more DTD sequels after Ariel's Beginning, but he didn't say anything about Theatrical sequels.), then, fine, but for the time being, please remove it for the time being, because we can't be certain if it is valid. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.32.186.225 (talk) 13:26, 7 June 2008 (UTC)