Talk:The Amazing Race (U.S. TV series)

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Contents 1 Viewership for season in progress 2 Mentions of other TV series 3 Fair use rationale for Image:Tar-sesamestreet.png 4 Where do they sleep? 5 New country list 6 "We're Moving Up The Food Chain"

[edit] Viewership for season in progress

I strongly recommend keeping the viewership numbers for the present season off the table. Official numbers will be released at the end of the season, so any numbers published between now and then are going to be questionable and debatable, even if verified by an article. (I added an HTML comment in line to hopefully keep it out of there until we have the official numbers.) --Masem 03:02, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

I'll point out again that right now, there is no official tally (that I've seen or that has been cited) as to the viewership for either series in the 06-07 season. If you do have a source and you want to put these back in, please cite the source. If you are putting them in for the current season, make sure to include "through x episodes" but here again, a source is very important. --Masem 23:35, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mentions of other TV series

I have a problem with the following passage from the section "Television viewership" (end of the paragraph directly below the table):

Despite this slight setback, the show has managed to maintain a steady ratings plateau, and is now one of the longest-running reality series ever, bested only by a handful of other series, such as Survivor, Big Brother, The Bachelor, Endurance, American Idol and MTV's The Real World.

What is the "bested by" supposed to refer to? Longest-running reality series or ratings? But a broader question would be: do we have to make a comparison of this show to the others? Tinlinkin 23:09, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

No. (I think 'bested by' here means, has had more episodes/seasons than, which is at least objective, but I can see people keeping adding to this list...)... --Masem 23:12, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I was thinking the same (not necessary and referring to seasons). But I think my edit will discourage additions—that's what I wanted to accomplish. Tinlinkin 23:27, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Tar-sesamestreet.png

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BetacommandBot 22:04, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. --MASEM 22:08, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Where do they sleep?

Where do contestants sleep? For example, it was stated during leg 4 of The Amazing Race 12 that they were in Burkina Faso for "a few days." But it isn't shown where the contestants sleep. Badagnani (talk) 05:04, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Contestants are usually put up in some kind of hotel during the mandatory rest periods. Occasionally they are given lodging that the viewers see (e.g. capsule hotel in Japan). They've been in Burkina Faso for most of Leg 3, up until the Pit Stop, and then through all of Leg 4. "A few days" is easily accurate. Also remember that the mandatory rest is occasionally 36 hours instead of 12, however when this happens it is not usually made known to viewers. Claude (talk) 18:50, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

It makes sense, then, that most of the locations were within a couple of hours' drive of Ouagadougou. This information, about the mandatory sleep periods, where they usually take place, and how long they are, should be added to the article. Badagnani (talk) 19:13, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

This is, in fact, already discussed in the main article under Pit Stops. Claude (talk) 03:17, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

No, I see no mention of the term "sleep" or "hotel" anywhere in the The Amazing Race (US TV series) article. Badagnani (talk) 03:19, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

The "main' article is the one at The Amazing Race (this article is the US show specific). However, there really isn't that much about where they sleep - or it wasn't explicitly stated, so I've added that to that article. --MASEM 04:21, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Of course, you're right and I didn't realize my error until later on. Thanks for the catch. Claude (talk) 17:03, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

That article did already have text about that, but the U.S. article needs such information as well. I had no idea there was a "main" article other than the U.S. one. Also, both articles need to state that the lodgings are (almost) never shown on the program. Badagnani (talk) 04:29, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

In the last episode, you may have noticed that Phil said that they arrived at a certain time (7:47 am, I believe) during the daytime. If you noticed the images of them opening the clues, they started the leg during the day (as opposed to night if the 12 hour rest period was enforced), and Phil didn't announce when they departed (he just merely said that "they were the first to depart", sans "at ___"). This may have been due to the rains on the previous leg, or perhaps safety concerns regarding travel at night in a developing country. Rather than explain this, they try and conceal this fact from the casual viewer. If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 16:36, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

That's great information. Let's add it to the article now. It is not our job to help anyone conceal anything (except in the case of BLP). Badagnani (talk) 18:06, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Again, the fake 12 hr pit stops are mentioned at main The Amazing Race page. What I've done is try to make it clear that the format of the race (listed on this US-airing specific page) is expanded into much more detail on the other in-general page, which then should direct you to, for example, where they sleep at pit stops or the time issues on length of pit stops. Again, the split of these articles is that this (US-centric) one should be information very specific to how the US show is made and reviewed and the like, while the other page is more just on how the race is run that is true for the other international Race versions. --MASEM 19:52, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New country list

I've been thinking that the country/locale list would look better organized in a bulleted format rather than the raw list we have now. I experimented for a while, and came up with a new way of doing it, which can be seen here. It lists the countries in columns rather than rows, bullets them, and incorporates the map into the table itself, which eliminates the trapped whitespace outside the table that we have now. I eliminated the parenthetical "including" notes to save room, but they could easily be added as footnotes. What do you think? --CrazyLegsKC 10:00, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Nice. looks very organized unlike tthe old version which looks very messy. but it'll be better if the picture of the new version doesn't destroy the line between Oceania and Europe Aranho (talk) 13:40, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. But what do you mean "destroy the line between Oceania and Europe"? --CrazyLegsKC 18:17, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

if you look under the europe section from iceland to ukraine, if you hover the mouse on any of these countries, a section of the line between europe section and oceanic section will be destroyed. Aranho (talk) 09:00, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

• Could someone attatch this article to the Amazing Race template? - List of Locations Visited by The Amazing Race U.S. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rj1020 (talk • contribs) 20:25, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Redirected to the US series' country list. I can understand the notability of a series country list, but ones for specific race locations, buildings, etc... becomes an FAQ/indiscriminate collection of information, which is not permitted per Wikipedia:NOT#INFO. It's for the same reason why we don't have pages with "racer statistics"... it's indiscriminate information, not to mention original research in that example. Remember, the race markers at each place mat list the country, not city of that leg... while Race media and press releases, focus on countries visited, not cities, buildings, national parks, or monuments visited. --Madchester (talk) 22:04, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

• Okay. I give up. I'll just post the list up on ImagineWiki. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rj1020 (talk • contribs) 00:24, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

• Hey. Can we use other colors for the country lists? If all are in shade of green, some numbers may be mixed up. Like the colors of countries visited once and twice seems to me to be same. If we can make it in different colors like the colors of the rainbow so it won't be mixed up.Albertal (talk) 08:10, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "We're Moving Up The Food Chain"

I just wanted to know which season this episode title is supposed to refer to (in the awards section) because it's not an episode title for any season of The Amazing Race. Is this an error? If anyone knows, please explain. 64.192.44.160 (talk) 21:38, 27 March 2008 (UTC)