Talk:Thames River (Ontario)
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From London, the lower part of the river flows through a shallow plain of sand and clay, with an average depth of 23 meters. The lower Thames flows through Delaware, Chatham, Thamesville, as well as Chippewa and Oneida First Nations settlements.
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I find it hard to believe that the Thames has and average depth of 75.45ft. You must mean 2.3 meters.
- The Lower Thames Conservation Authority says "depth is generally less than 23 metres", so for one thing I seem to have misunderstood it in the first place (it's not an average depth, I guess). But it must be 23 metres deep somewhere, then. Adam Bishop 00:18, 19 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I think having different articles about different rivers at Thames River and River Thames is confusing. The rivers (or at least the less well-known river) should be given proper disambiguation ( 21:25, 19 Sep 2003 (UTC)
- This was originally River Thames, Ontario (unfortunately only the text was moved, so the history of that is still at the redirect, I think). It is also complicated by the fact that there is at least one other Thames River, in Connecticut. Adam Bishop 21:34, 19 Sep 2003 (UTC)
[edit] Native Cultural Distinctions
The Algonquin Nation people are traditionally not from southern Ontario, but rather from eastern Ontario, the Ottawa Valley and parts of western Quebec.Although they're culturally and linguistically related to the Ojibwa and Odawa nations they have a distinct cultural form and are regarded as a distinct group.The individual native people that were encountered by the first Europeans to arrive in the immediate area where London is located today, were ethnically almost certainly Odawa,Ojibwa and perhaps Pottawatomie. Confusion of terms in this regard often happens because the Algonquin people have given their name to an entire group of related Native North American languages, this group is referred to as the Algonquian language group, a complex of closely related languages that also, amongst others, includes Ojibwa and Odawa. The two words ("Algonquian" and "Algonquin") are so close in appearance at first glance that even 'the pro's' slip up from time to time on the issue. It's a case of all Algonquin native speakers speak an Algonquian language, but not everyone who speaks an Algonquian language is an Algonquin. :)
The following are good sources for sorting out these kinds of cultural distinctions in this part of the province:
'The Ojibwa of Southern Ontario' by Peter S. Schmalz, 1991 ISBN: 0-8020-2736-9
'The Archaeology of Southern Ontario to A.D. 1650' Chris J. Ellis & Neal Ferris, editors, 1990 ISBN: 0-919350-13-5
