Talk:Tennessee Temple University
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[edit] De-stub
I took a look at some of the other private colleges of Tennessee articles and many of them are about the same size as this one and they aren't considered a stub. Anyone have any objections to de-stubbing this article?
[edit] Department section addition
I am a student at Tennessee temple University and will be adding a list of the departments currently in TTU. I have to go to dinner soon, and still have a video to make before that, so I will finish the addition of the new section either tonight or tomorrow. Sculleywr (talk) 22:14, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Student Government
I just added sections on the new administration and student government. If anyone feels that the student government section isn't relevant to the article, then feel free to revert that part, but you shouldn't have to revert the new administration information, as it is relevant. It's not like people really look at this article that much as it is, so, at the requests of some of the students, I thought that the student government information could be helpful in this article. If the needs (or preferences of the administrators in the wiki community) of the many outweigh the needs of those few TTU students, then feel free to cut it out. -Rlee1185
[edit] Connection to Falwell Ministries
My father called me last night, he is retired and lives in Cleveland Tennessee, about 40km North of Chattanooga, and he told me he's working for Tennessee Temple University now, renovating three dormitories that have been unused for a decade. He then went on to say that Jerry Falwell Ministries (or Liberty University) was funding the project, and had sent someone down from Virginia to either assist or take over the administration of Temple, which has enrolled some 200 new students.
I came to Wikipedia for the details, and was surprised to find no mention of these changes, nor on the University website, or at Falwell Ministries or Liberty. Does anyone know anything more than I heard from dad last night (Aug 11)? -- Caulds
- I think one reason about the lack of info on the changes is that most students who are knowledgeable of such infomration do not have the time or inclination to edit a wikipedia article about the school, as most of them barley use it at all, much less take the time to edit articles. I know most of the teachers are wary about Wikipedia, thanks to bad press from uninformed radio, print, and tv journalists that say that wikipedia is riddled with errors. I always counter their arguments that wikipedia is almost as reliable as the Encyclopædia Britannica.
rlee1185 22:11, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] True History
Doesn't anyone think that the FULL history of Tennessee Temple should be included here? For instance, the way that at one time the rules were much more strict. As well as the fact that most independent baptists distance themselves from this school and look at it as a place that has fallen from its original stature? Isn't it true that the Lee Roberson days were much different than these days? For intance, the guys and girls can hold hands now. In those days guys and girls had to observe a "six inch rule." Also the fact that most independent baptists have separated from this school due to its alliance with Liberty and the Destruction of the Southwide Baptist Fellowship. Not to mention the fact that this school and church is known to bring in Southern Baptist speakers. These FACTS should be mentioned on this page if it is truly a neutral page. Take for instance the Hyles-Anderson page. It has historical facts both good and bad including criticisms. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.169.226.179 (talk) 00:23, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
- The HAC page also has more than 19 SOURCES, many from the Chicago Sun-TImes and other large newspapers, something this page does not have (except for the Temple website itself). This is not a IFB blog somewhere - we have to reliable, verifiable sources. Also, most of the issues you have raised aren't relevant to an encyclopedia article. Also, remember that at the height of Temple's heyday in the early 70s, men like Jack Hyles, Bob Gray and sevreal others (including Jerry Falwell, btw) started competing schools. There's nothing wrong with that, but that was when there was supposedly nothing wrong with the school at that time, but that had a huge affect on Temple's recruitment in the following years. Also, note that the most "liberal" of these, Liberty University, has a larger enrollment (over 20,000) than all the other schools formed at that time, and since, combined. THe funny thing is, when most Americans think of funamentlist Christian schools, Liberty is at the top of the list. They may be more "liberal" than some other Christan colleges, but they are by no means "Liberal". Now, if you can find verifaible sources (such as non-religious newpapers, etc.) that cover the history, fine, you can add that. But all of what has been added recently, but you and others, is what is called Origial Research. Wikipedia is not supposed to use that, even tho many articles still have that.
- In addition, if you or anyone else wishes to add Clarence Sexton as a notable alumni, you have to prove his notability. This is best done through a biographical article, which must conform to Wikipedia's Biographies of Living persons and Notabiliety policies. I do know who he is, but that's not sufficent. Wikipedia has standards that are to be followed. You do know what standards are, right? - BillCJ 00:51, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
- Just a note on the Hyles-Anderson College article: I read through it last night, and noted that lot of the criticism leveled at the school are concerning individual people, not the school itself. Someone willing to take on a big fight could remove alot of that as irrelevant. Even direct criticisms concerning Dr. Hyles should be limited to those about the school itself, and covered in his bio article (if they aren't already). It would be a big job to do, and I don't have the time or health to take on something that big right now. - BillCJ 01:01, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
But should it not be noted that TTU is loosly if at all associated with the Independent Baptist Movement? Most Indenpendent Baptists want nothing to do with it because of its relationship with Liberty and the Southern Baptist Speakers it has in as well as the way our beloved Southwide Baptist Fellowship has been destroyed. And as for the "standards" comment, come on brother!
- No, is shouldn't be noted unless you have an independent, reliable published 3rd party source that says that. Bill is right, we have standards here. If you turned in a term paper without references backing up what you said, you'd get an F. Here you just get a reversion. The point is that you can add all the criticism you want, if it is criticism made by other published sources. That's how things work here, so either be willing to work within the system, or go start a blogspot and use that to push your views. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 03:05, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
I was attempting to point out Bill's play on words of the word standards. It is obvious he is a fellow IFB of somewhat and he was letting me know in our own terminology what standards are. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.169.226.179 (talk) 03:18, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
