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[edit] Craig T. Nelson

The twice-appended reference to Geiger as a teen idol is unencyclopedic inasmuch as it is unsourced and non-NPOV (in its ascription of the appellative "seasoned" to sundry critics). If the editor who desires that the info should be in the article would kindly cite a source, I (and others, I'm sure) would be much appreciative; in the meanwhile, I am left only with a Google search from which one would infer that not many critics at all are making reference to Geiger in the context of Nelson. Joe 06:32, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Homosexuality Portion

Someone deleted it for some reason. Most likely some teenage girl who doesn't want to believe their dream guy is gay. Anyone want to put it back up? --72.226.224.251 02:20, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

No. We should not add information like that without a reference. Hyenaste 10:41, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm definitely not a teenage girl. I removed it because it looked like a smear. If Rolling Stone had outed Geiger it would have been all over the local newspaper. Further: homosexuality being caused by sexual abuse? It doesn't even make sense. In all, if you contend it's true, you MUST provide a direct quotation, or at the very least give a more precise citation than just "Rolling Stone" so that the quotation can be reviewed. Powers 13:21, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
I didn't put that line back up. And apparently you don't understand human psychology if you think that child/sexual abuse doesn't affect someone's lifestyle further in life. But it doesn't have to be added again if we don't have a reference. Fair enough. --72.226.224.251 14:37, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
I didn't suggest you did replace the line. I also didn't suggest that sexual abuse doesn't affect someone later in life. However, the conclusion that it can result in homosexuality is not, AFAIK, supported by the research, and in fact is more commonly used as a misconception by anti-gay bigots. Not to suggest that you or anyone else IS one, just to say that the statement as added read like an attempt at a smear based on a misconception of the nature of homosexuality. Powers 15:12, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Teddy Geiger IS NOT GAY. There was an interview with him in Seventeen magazine where he clearly stated that he was still searching for the perfect girl. I know I shouldn't believe everything I read, but Teddy seems like a very sincere and honest person. He also seems like the type of person who doesn't care what other people think about him. Therefore, I don't think he would lie about looking for the perfect girl in a popular magazine. What do you think? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.125.69.25 (talk • contribs) .

Teddy Geiger is in fact gay he said so himself.

^^ Would you happen to have proof of that. To my knowledge, Teddy is heterosexual.

[edit] Search?

I just searched for this entry and it didn't show up for wikipedia. Is there something wrong with it? Is it case sensitive? Because I typed "teddy geiger" and nothing. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 139.55.10.32 (talk • contribs) .

Works for me. teddy geiger is a redirect to this article. Powers 15:12, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Minor Edits

I edited out just a few little things. They seemed to be personal comments by someone, basically just calling Teddy a freak and then saying he was ugly. I didn't think that was necessary. Skin crawl 17:14, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Yep, thats known as vandalism, and it is very common around here. See WP:VAND. Powers 18:36, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jewish?

Someone added this category and I removed it because I couldn't find a source. Does anyone have one? Mad Jack 18:05, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Teddy is not Jewish, as he went to McQuaid Jesuit. Jesuits are people that believe in Jesus, therefore he could no be Jewish... as McQuaid is very strict on the fact that you are a Christian. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.204.127.26 (talk • contribs) .
McQuaid Jesuit High School, for reference. Powers T 01:47, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Regardless of whether or not Teddy Geiger is Jewish his attendence to McQuaid Jesuit High School does not prove anything about his religion. I am Agnostic and I go to McQuaid. McQuaid, while predominantly catholic has a variety of religions represented. See the page on our Religious diversity club if you do not believe me,[1] or perhaps the section that says "McQuaid Jesuit has a diverse population of students of all races and faiths" [2] will convince you. CuttingEdge 17:33, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Buffalo, NY

I took out the category of People from Buffalo, NY, as Teddy is not from Buffalo. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.67.121.171 (talk • contribs) .

Thank you. It was my understanding that he was born in Buffalo (at least according to the article itself). Do you have evidence otherwise? Powers 14:30, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Teddy was born in Buffalo but raised in Pittsford, a suburb of Rochester, and he still lives there today. Sixhundredsix 02:30, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
What kind of sources can we find? From his own bio on his site...

With thick glasses and a bowl hair cut, that outcast little kid from Rochester, New York hit the local coffee bar scene....

--Bill.matthews 01:50, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

IMDb lists both, oddly enough. [3] Here's one that says Buffalo: [4]. Fan site says Buffalo: [5] It's not much, but more sources say Buffalo than Rochester. I'd be fine with removing references to his birthplace until confirmed, but it definitely shouldn't say Rochester. Powers T 02:13, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Oh, and I realize his bio says he's "from" Rochester, but that's true regardless of where he was born. =) Powers T 02:17, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Can you find a valid source to cite with the birth place? If not, I suggest we have to follow his bio. --Bill.matthews 10:46, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
His bio doesn't specify a birth place. Powers T 12:34, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Okay agreed I did a google and I find conflicting birth places in lots of sources. Until we have a verified source, we should probably leave it out. Is that a good compromise? --Bill.matthews 12:59, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Yes. User:Sixhundredsix seemed certain he was born in Buffalo, so presumably there's some definitive source out there somewhere. Powers T 19:49, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article

This article [6] has some good info, if someone's interested in adding it Mad Jack 16:06, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Rocker

I have no idea why 24.13.203.78 keeps editing out the fact that Emma Stone is in this movie with Teddy along with Rainn Wilson. All three are supposed to have significant parts. Is there something wrong with having her in biography? - Sixhundredsix 02:25, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

The sources I have seen about the movie do not mention her. Can you please cite your source? --Bill.matthews 02:33, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Her official MySpace blog, written by her. You have to be a "friend" to read it. http://myspace.com/officialemmastone -Sixhundredsix 02:47, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm wondering if this IP might not like the unconfirmed rumors that Ted and Emma are currently dating? Sixhundredsix 02:49, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
We'll need a better source than that. MySpace blogs probably aren't reliable sources, especially if they are private, and/or written by the subject. Let's wait to re-add this until we can find a source like IMDB or a press release. --Bill.matthews 11:34, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Ok, as soon as IMDB updates we'll look at this again. -Sixhundredsix 13:49, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
IMDb isn't reliable either. Powers T 23:58, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/news.php?id=6346 - Sixhundredsix 16:46, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
That works, but use [7] instead, since the ropeofsilicon article was based on it. Powers T 14:55, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Sure, thanks. - Sixhundredsix 16:51, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

I looked up "The Rocker" on Yahoo! Movies and it listed all of the actors, including Emma Stone. No, Ted is not dating anyone. --Austenfann (talk) 01:08, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Folk Artist

I would like to raise awareness on the page that claims Teddy Geiger to be in the Folk genre and an American Folk artist. It is very much incorrect to label Teddy as a folk artist, in the same tradition as Pete Seeger, Woody Guthrie, Bob Dylan, and Joan Baez. Folk music has been defone as 1. A "schema comprising four musical types: 'primitive' or 'tribal'; 'elite' or 'art'; 'folk'; and 'popular'. Usually...folk music is associated with a lower class in societies which are culturally and socially stratified, that is, which have developed an elite, and possibly also a popular, musical culture." Cecil Sharp (1907)?, A.L. Lloyd (1972).

  2. "Cultural processes rather than abstract musical types...continuity and oral transmission...seen as characterizing one side of a cultural dichotomy, the other side of which is found not only in the lower layers of feudal, capitalist and some oriental societies but also in 'primitive' societies and in parts of 'popular cultures'." Redfield (1947) and Dundes (1965).
  3. Less prominent, "a rejection of rigid boundaries, preferring a conception, simply of varying practice within one field, that of 'music'."

Teddy falls short in these categories in the following ways. (1) Teddy's music is not primitive, tribal, nor artistic. Elitist music critics don't even take the time to listen to him, (2) he does not come from a lower class society, he is from Pittsford, an affluent community outside of my hometown of Rochester.

Also folk music has been a tool to discuss social problems, racism, workers rights, peace, and usually in a critically acclaimed fashion, with skillful poetry and prose. Not in offense to Geiger, but bubble gummy songs about teenage girlfriends, and not being cool in high school make the gap between Geiger's music and folk music widen.

So let's get rid of the folk under genre, and remove him form the American Folk musician category.

Yeah, I'd have to agree. I've never thought of Teddy as a folk artist. He is influenced by folk artists but he is not a folk artist himself.
And please sign your posts in the future. Thanks. - Sixhundredsix 03:24, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture?

Could someone please put up a nice, recent picture of him?--Austenfann (talk) 01:09, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bit about The Rocker?

Why was the paragraph about The Rocker removed from his page? He is in an upcoming movie! It's important!--Panic!out (talk) 18:44, 8 April 2008 (UTC)