Talk:Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateapokaiwhenuakitanatahu

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[edit] Variants

Since this is a "longest place name" name, shouldnt we use the longer name as the article title? Pizza Puzzle

  • There are 3 different versions of the name. Earliest internet documented usage appears to be by Peter Cape, in the shorter form. (And the shorter name is still very long!) The other two versions are redirected to the shorter form. All three names appear at the #1 position of a google search, and why is someone going to type that name into a search engine anyway? If someone knows about the name, they will probably be searching for the definitive article using that name. I would have consider that moving would be a good idea if only the longest version was used, but when I was researching the article I found the page name given to the article predominated in Google Searches. There is also some dispute about the contrivance of the longer names anyway. Besides, I have not yet managed to lay my hands on a map, official NZ Geographic Board place name list, or similar authenticated documents to confirm which spelling is used officially. I found this article at the shorter name and felt, for technical reasons, that moving it to the longer name may be unwise at this time. --- kiwiinapanic 03:12 29 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Frankly I'm just glad now I went for the wide monitor. ;) - Hephaestos 03:17 29 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Encarta world atlas 2001 gives the name as "Taumatawhakatangihangakoauotamateaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanataha", which is different to all the others on the page and only turns up one result in Google! porge 22:24, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC) [relevant part changed to bold by contributor of next comment]

  • That's an easy one. Encarta was clearly wrong in at least one respect: the flute is "koauau" (koau is a cormorant). Robin Patterson 00:40, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I went and dug up my Reed Dictionary of Māori place names, which has the entry as follows:
"Taumatawhakatangihangakōauauotamateapōkaiwhenuakitanatahu": The brow of the hill where [...] Another form, broken into its component parts, is "Te Taumata-okiokinga-whakatangihanga-o-te-kōauau-a-Tamatea-pōkai-whenua".
This one matches the page name (albeit macronised). porge 09:14, Sep 17, 2004 (UTC)
The official name is the article title of Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateapokaiwhenuakitanatahu. See LINZ http://www.linz.govt.nz/rcs/linz/pub/web/root/core/placenames/index.jsp Nurg 09:14, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I've been around asking Kaumatua (Maori elders) on what the "proper" name is and the most extensive version i got was; Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateahaumaitawhitiurehaerepukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu. (102 letters) I also found this version in a song Tarzipan 02:17, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Get a citation of this, then we could do a move of Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateapokaiwhenuakitanatahu to Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateahaumaitawhitiurehaerepukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu and ensure it stays the longest single word wikipedia article. Nagelfar 04:12, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
  • If you need a citation that the article name should be the longer form then look at the photo attached to the entry. It shows the longer form:

"Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotameteaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenakitanatahu", not the shorter form currently used as the title, listed with Land Information New Zealand. I think the article should be searchable using both spellings. Searching with part of the name currently does not bring up the article in the results. James.faction (talk) 04:45, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Is there a redirection from the longer name to here? Androo123 (talk) 21:47, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes - you can check that by clicking on the 'What links here'. Kahuroa (talk) 05:07, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Longest...

Is this the Wikipedia article with the longest title? That would be something for the record books :) Greatgavini 21:20, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

How about this one--Paul 14:46, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
This article is a single word! -- Cameron Dewe 09:15, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Height

305m is almost exactly 1000 feet. Is that height correct, or has someone translated "roughly 1000 feet" as "exactly 305m"?

Topographical maps of the area give the height as 305 metres. -- Cameron Dewe 09:16, 16 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Pronounciation

Could someone record the pronounciation and place it in the commons? That would be very nice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hurkummer (talk • contribs)

[edit] Umm...

Is this a joke? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.84.70.196 (talk) 14:04, 14 January 2007 (UTC).

No! Mathmo Talk 08:24, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
I wondered the same thing. --Secruss (talk) 00:36, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Uh?

How can it be 'the longest word in English' when it's a Maori name? I wouldn't try claiming that Llanfairp......whatever it is is the longest word in English, not unless I wanted a lynching from the Welsh, so how can it be that a Maori word is treated as such? It presumably translates as something into English - that is the English name. I think what you mean is 'Longest word written in the Latin/Roman alphabet/script, maybe? 82.32.238.139 23:36, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't see any reference to "longest English word" I only see "longest known word", slight difference.

[edit] Here, Here

Def. not an English word... the fact that it is translated into English Characters, doesn't mean it is an English Word. In saying that, is something like "Hiawatha" - being an American Indian name, an English word/name? Hmm —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jeff.kerr (talk • contribs) 08:17, 21 March 2007 (UTC).

"English Characters" would probably be something like the Anglo-Saxon futhark, this is latin script. Nagelfar 04:08, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Umm... Uh?... Hear, hear=

Offending reference to this as an English word removed. ... Kahuroa 19:11, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What does it sound like when spoken?

Well lets see, someone could record the spoken sound and place a link here, for those visually challenged amongst us to be able to share this space by using their ears. You know, sound, audio, air vibrations, as opposed to the letters / characters / words / symbols you can see here if youre not blind. You must take the trouble to record it with an acceptable pronunciation though, otherwiwse it will end up here like this one:

You could smile at the inacuracies of translations by people and machines that have little understanding of the true nature of what is actually attempted to be executed, perhaps even offer some assistance. It serves to remind us of the rich texture of humanity, imperfect, but striving for improvement at every step.

You could be warned that the file is 7.2Meg and that the traffic challenged wikipedians might not like that either, but for me it just took a few seconds, so I guess its ok. moza 23:10, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

let me be clear that I am fully for obeying agreed rules for pronunciation, and challenged to bend myself, as those rules change, but I certainly get quite staunch about some basic rules in many languages, and those in my opinion should originate from the culture using the respective language itself. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mozasaur (talk • contribs) 23:33, 15 May 2007 (UTC).

[edit] references and citation lacking tags

they seem to be popping up all over the place, destroying the credibility of the wikipedia in one sense. The name of this article is listed on a government web site and is in the official place names list by the Geographic Places Names Board so I dont see the difficulty in having a suitable citation. explain? I see a lot of activity where content is removed because it 'isnt agreed with' but isnt the policy supposed to be remove whatever isnt verifiable? I'm not suggesting that we follow that path either as it would kill perhaps half the content and thats a lot ... but I'm just on my old surgery versus fixing platform again... suggesting nicely that fixing is better than removal. I know its much harder and more time consuming and see the latest excuse is that the original editor is better placed to know where the info came from.. mmm.

so anyway I added the spec copied directly from the LINZ page, feel free to format the citation in some official way if there is any and perhaps remove all the un-cited material, which would decimate the article i think, so perhaps dont.moza 23:37, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] when did this name arise?

I'm a little suspicious of the name -- it sounds like something invented for the tourist industry. I don't doubt it's on the official maps and so forth, but I am curious as to when it first arose? Was it already in use when Europeans arrived? Or was it like those town names in New England -- coined off of quasi-fictional Native American etymologies? 69.17.73.214 (talk) 04:08, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Map

Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotameteaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenakitanatahu (New Zealand)
Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotameteaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenakitanatahu
Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotameteaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenakitanatahu

A map could be added for humorous effect - Gobeirne (talk) 23:25, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

I've added a non-humorous location map.-gadfium 06:26, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Longer form of Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateapokaiwhenuakitanatahu

Is it Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotameteaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenakitanatahu (in the first section) OR Tetaumatawhakatangihangakoauaotamateaurehaeaturipukapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuaakitanatahu (in the section Meaning)????? I don`t know how to verify this... Could anyone please give reliable source about this????? QQ (talk) 18:19, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

The section itself says the word has been entered into the Guiness Book of Records so it should be easy to verify Kahuroa (talk) 22:01, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Guiness book of records form - can someone look it up?

The form (Tetaumatawhakatangihangakoauaotamateaurehaeaturipukapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu) that was purported to come from the Guiness Book of Records, and to have 92 letters, was wrong, and probably has been wrong for a long time. It didn't have 92 letters, but 91. It started with Te- (which is the in Māori - my guess is someone added it to make up the letter count) and was missing a -u- and a -ka-. I have removed the Te- and corrected it to Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateaurehaeaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu which has 92 letters - but I don't have a Guiness Book of records to verify it against. Can someone help here? Kahuroa (talk) 05:07, 23 May 2008 (UTC)