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Come in!!

Everybody, please come in!! I build this page for future discussions and proposals focused on Taiwan. I do not build this page for myself. :) Mababa 05:30, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Chen Yi's title

Help needed in discussion in Governor-General of Taiwan:

I dispute the statement "It also shortly existed between 1945 to 1947 under Chinese rule." Chen Yi's position is most often translated into "Chief Executive". What are the Chinese characters for both? It would be relevant in the article. --Ji ang 02:52, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

When Chen Yi took over Taiwan, he assumed two positions at the same time, one is Garrison/military occupation power-like position: head of 警備總司令部; the second one is provisional civilian government-kind :head of 行政長官公署.[1] I am not sure which one should be translated as Chief Executive or Governor-General. I cited the source from Time magazine. Perhaps either one works or they are different titles for different positions. Perhaps we can bring this question to the Taiwan related notice board for discussion.Mababa 04:45, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

"Chief executive" = 行政長官 for sure. I don't know about 警備總司令, but it means something totally differently, like "Security Commander".--Menchi 08:38, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Taiwan-related

Hello and congratulations.

I would like to know the meaning and extent of "Taiwan-related". Would an article related to, for instance, Wu-ch'iu Islands (or Wuciou Islands) of Kinmen County, be Taiwan-related (and within the scope of this notice board)? Thank you. — Insta ntnood 17:16 Feb 20 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for stopping by. I think the title is extremenly self-explaining; that is: the board is focusing on Taiwan-related topics. I personally do not believe Kinmen County would be the main focus here. If discussion involves Taiwan-unrelated topics, such as ROC in China, they would be advised to discuss in China-related board or other specialized boards since there would be more participants more knowledgable on these Taiwan-unrelated topics. It would also be highly appreciated if you are kind enough in helping us by reminding participants in Taiwan-unrelated discussions to move to other Taiwan-unrelated boards. Mababa 06:46, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. I will consider this message board to be related to the island of Taiwan plus the province of Taiwan (or Taiwan plus Pescadores plus Green Island, etc.). Quemoy or Taiping will not be considered (or perhaps will be considered marginally) related to Taiwan. — Insta ntnood 07:02 Feb 23 2005 (UTC)

I am glad that you have found what you want to learn about. Taiwan-related is Taiwan related. I believe that we shall help contributers to make the best use of both Taiwan-related and Taiwan-UNrelated boards to facilitate professional level discussions and accurate Wikipedia edits.Mababa 06:53, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thank you Mababa. You have been very helpful. — Insta ntnood 08:16 Feb 24 2005 (UTC)

Help needed re: 228 Incident

Hello all, I'd like to request your help regarding recent changes to the 228 Incident article. We've gotten some new info from different points of view, which is a positive thing. However there are quite a few new points that I am unsure of, especially in regards to claims made by Li Ao. Some of the linked sites also seem excessively partisan. See Talk:228 Incident --Loren 06:04, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

臺灣文化 / Culture of Taiwan

under "Needs expanding" there is a listing for "Culture of Taiwan", while under "Needs translating" there is a listing for "臺灣文化"(Taiwanese Culture). Should the more robust chinese article be translated and ultimately replace the "Culture of Taiwan" english stub? --optimistic-x 13:45, Mar 22, 2005 (UTC)

Hmmm.... I was the one put "Culture of Taiwan" both in need expanding and need translation. I did not give it much thought that we should replace the current article with the translated on or not. But it could be a good start. On the other hand, I am not totally satisfied with the mandarin version either. I was actually thinking about gathering more information and assemble them together. But I am just one of the wikipedians here and I can only speak for myself. Any suggestions on this article would be greatly appreciated since the poor article is really under-developed in my opinion. :(Mababa 20:29, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Photos or video from Taiwan 326 event?

Greetings,

I am reporting on Saturday's "326" march and rally in Taipei City over on Wikinews, and need to acquire photos or video from the event. The current story on the event is called Taiwan Democratic Alliance for Peace plans massive rally on Saturday.

I plan to file a new story as the 326 event starts, and to then update it as the event unfolds.

If anyone has friends in Taipei City with a camera, or are aware of any Public Domain or GFDL content related to today's 326 march and rally, please let me know.

You can reach me on my Wikinews user talk page.

Thanks.

Regards,

— DV 07:12, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

A story is now filed on Wikinews about today's march in Taiwan, entitled, Hundreds of thousands protest anti-secession law in Taiwan. — DV 12:06, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Chinese surnames on Wikipedia

If you're interested in working on how Chinese surnames should be presented on Wikipedia, please comment at Talk:Chinese surname#Chinese surnames on Wikipedia. Thanks. — Insta ntnood 13:53, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)

User:Jiang has started a WikiProject for Chinese surnames. — Insta ntnood 13:20, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

"Taiwan" vs. "ROC" for page titles

Following the long discussion at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Chinese) regarding proper titling of ROC-/Taiwan-related topics, polls for each single case has now been started here. Please come and join the discussion, and cast your vote. Thank you. — Insta ntnood 21:19, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

Scope of the Taiwan article

Hello. There's another poll on the scope of the Taiwan article here. The proposal is to include " the geographical and cultural features of the lands controlled by the Republic of China (Taiwan) " into the article. — Insta ntnood 14:00, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)

KMT assets

List of assets owned by the Kuomintang could use some expansion. --Ji ang 07:20, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

ROC (Taiwan) Military Articles

I've started a few new articles on the ROC armed forces. There really isn't much detailed info on the net for me to go on so any input you guys can provide on the subject would be very much appreceated. First hand experience is even better.

--Loren 07:25, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

This is a few years old but contins some overview material that is still salvageable: [2]. It's in the public domain and can be copied. --Ji ang 07:55, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Looks good, I'll see if I can integrate the info into some of the articles.

--Loren 08:17, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Postage stamps and postal history of the ROC

The article is currently a red link, with an article linked to it. But there's probably a lot to write on. Did the Japanese colonial government of Taiwan issued any stamps by the way? — Insta ntnood 12:48, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC) (revised 16:08, May 7, 2005 (UTC))

Yes and no. There were no formal issues for Japanese Formosa, but local authorities issued three provisional stamps in 1945 when communications between Japan and the island were disrupted by the US Navy in 1945. The stamps were a 3 sen (red), 5 sen (green) and 10 sen (blue), all simply featuring a large numeral, a mon, and the name of the country in Japanese. The stamps were imperforate. Other than that, the island used Japanese stamps. Later the same year, these stamps and other values in the same designs - all overprinted "Taiwan Province, Chinese Republic" in Chinese pictograms - became the first official stamps for Chinese Taiwan. Grutness...wha? 13:28, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Umm. So in short the postal history of Taiwan has always been part of Japan, and later as part of the ROC. I was actually thinking if there's a need to have a separate article for the postal history of Taiwan, and the answer is now obvious. Thanks Grutness. — Insta ntnood 14:19, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)

Sinckan writing

Sinckan writing moved to Sinckan Manuscripts; all talks moved there as well. Translation isn't complete yet, but organization will be a problem. If you're interested read the talks there. Mgmei 23:45, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Bio-stub

Hi everyone - Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting has just created a new stub template: {{China-bio-stub}}. Articles marked with it will be categorised in Category:Chinese people stubs. It is hoped (possibly with undue optimism) that it can be used for people from both China PR and the Republic of China. There are three main reasons for this: 1) Many of the articles in the category will be biographies of people who either lived before 1948 or during the years when the schism was taking place; 2) it is likely that editors who know something about people from one side of the strait will also know a little at least about people from the other side; 3) at present there are probably too few bio-stubs about people in ROC alone to warrant a separate bio-stub category (this may change at a later date if a large number of ROC bio-stubs are found). We hope this will be an acceptable situation for you, although we realise that - as with many article/categorisation conflicts relating to the two Chinas - it is impossible to keep everyone happy! Grutness...wha? 13:16, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Education in Taiwan

I've recently "discovered" this article, and I think it needs some attention, and probably have to be rewritten. Can any folk help? :-) — Insta ntnood 16:35, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

Working on it. --Loren 16:59, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. — Insta ntnood 20:09, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)

NPOV on Democratic Progressive Party and Kuomingtang

Assistance is requested on trying to guide and remain NPOV on the two forementioned articles. User:BobbyBuilder is going crazy, and I'm just getting upset, so I'm going to remove myself temporarily from those two pages. Particularly, BobbyBuilder is negating any edits from Willfried Derksen, Roadrunner, and myself.--GrandCru 28 June 2005 23:59 (UTC)

Japanese (Colonial) Rule in Taiwan VS Japanese Occupation of Taiwan

Which one would be a better name for 台灣日治時期? In fact there's another article about the Japanese Occupation of Hong Kong, likewise a general category. -- Jerry Crimson Mann 3 July 2005 18:42 (UTC)

I believe that Japanese Colonial Rule would be the better title. Unlike Hong Kong which was conqurered from Britain during WWII and held during wartime but not officially ceeded, the Ching Dynasty ceeded Taiwan to Japan in perpetuity in the Treaty of Shimonoseki in 1895. The title should reflect this difference. Compare with British Raj (India as a British Colony) and Colonial Hong Kong. --Loren 3 July 2005 19:23 (UTC)

I see...so shall we call it Colonial Taiwan straightly to the point? -- Jerry Crimson Mann 3 July 2005 19:50 (UTC)

I see no problem with it personally, but you might want to get some more opinions before making the change. Also, you might want to consider the fact that at various times in history, Taiwan (or parts of it) was claimed as a colony by the Spanish, the Dutch, Ching Dyansty, and Japan. Some clarification might be necessary.--Loren 3 July 2005 20:26 (UTC)

Night markets

I've started a new category on and List of night markets in Taiwan. I'd appreciate help from anyone who can help add more night markets to the list or (even better) help expand articles in the category or provide photos. Thanks! -Loren 6 July 2005 07:43 (UTC)

Deletion list

Hello,

I just wanted to let you know about a list of Taiwan-related items on Votes for Deletion. It's part of WikiProject Deletion sorting, and you can find it here. I hope you can use it to track and contribute to Taiwan-related deletion debates. If you find the list useful, please also help keep it up to date.

By the way, new deletion sorters are welcome and needed. Join us!

Cheers,

-- Visviva 03:37, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Fei Ge article is neglected.

Hello,I am from Singapore.I created this Fei Ge article,but it has not been updated since.Can you people help?Tdxiang 08:54, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Chiang Kai-shek FAC

I think the Chiang Kai-shek article is almost ready for a featured article nomination, but I would like some input on its neutrality and accuracy. In particular, attention must be given to the number of deaths he was responsible for. I am afraid that the biography leaves out the killings he ordered as part of the "White Terror", while the legacy section might have exaggerated it. It might be better if we could assign deaths to specific incidents. --Ji ang 15:09, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Niaosiung

Is this a valid article? Claims to be a place in Kaohsiung County (could possibly be Niaosong), but most of the contents seem quite questionable.--Confuzion 03:25, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Standard naming scheme

Please see the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Regional notice boards#A uniform naming scheme. Zocky | picture popups 00:52, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

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