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Contents 1 Article blanked 2 VfD 3 deleted sentence 4 (Orwellian)

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I deleted this article - it was a hoax. Synergetics is indeed a discipline invented by Herman Haken. It looks at pattern formation in dissipative systems. It is physics. As I say, the previous instantiation was a hoax, possibly computer generated.

(above is by User:Duracell) If you think this should be deleted, take it to WP:VFD. You should never unilaterally blank articles. jni 10:48, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

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This article was the subject of a Vote for Deletion. The result was "no consensus". -- JimR 00:14, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

• Are there any objections to removal of the Article for Deletion message from the article now? -- JimR 00:14, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

• • not from meDuracell 23:29, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

• • • OK, done! -- JimR 10:29, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

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removed sentence that was a description of fullers work. Clearly the author of that sentence had not grasped that there were differing definitions hence the *disambiguation* page :) Duracell 02:55, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

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I don't know if George Orwell could have predicted that the definitions of almost all words would change everywhere, but your definition of the word "Synergetics" is just too far from the truth after only 36 years. Here is where it was used for about the first time, from R. Buckminster Fuller's book Section 986.096 in 1975, 1979.

986.096 My insights regarding nature's coordinate system were greatly enhanced by two of Milton Academy's greatest teachers: Homer LeSourd in physics and William Lusk Webster Field ("Biology Bill") in biology. During the summer vacation of 1906, at 11 years of age I designed and built my first small but exciting experimental dwelling on our family's small mid-Penobscot Bay island. Living all my youthful summers on that island, with its essential boatbuilding, boat-modifying, boat-upkeep, and boat-sailing, followed by five years as a line officer in the regular U.S. Navy with some of my own smaller-craft commands, some deck-officering on large craft of the new era's advanced technology ships, together with service involving airplanes, submarines, celestial navigation, ballistics, radio, and radiotelephone; then resignation from the Navy followed by five more private- enterprise years developing a new building system, inventing and installing its production tools, managing the production of the materials, and erecting therewith 240 residences and small commercial buildings__altogether finally transformed my sustained activity into full preoccupation with my early-boyhood determination some day to comprehend and codify nature's omniintertransformative, omnidirectional, cosmic coordination system and its holistic, only-experientially-proven mathematics. In 1928, inspired and fortified by Hubble's Expanding Universe discovery, I gave the name and its symbol 4-D to my mathematical preoccupations and their progressively discovered system codifying. In 1936 I renamed my discipline "Energetic Vectorial Geometry." In 1938 I again renamed it "Energetic-synergetic Geometry," and in 1970 for verbal economy contracted that title to "Synergetics."

From Clifford J. Nelson, Jan 16, 2006