Talk:Swiss People's Party
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"Some believed ..." "most of the foreign residents in Switzerland are criminals, murderers and rapists." "symbolizing the criminal alien invader" "Some felt ..."
All weasel words and POV. All deleted. Jamiem 10:44, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Why is there still a neutrality disputed banner on this page? How could the article possibly be any more NPOV/flat/demurring?? Blueguitar411 18:36, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Ideology
Instead of really illustrating the ideology of the SVP, this section deals with two current headline hitting debates. It should be renamed in "Debates 2007" or something like that - otherwise it's completly useless. --62.203.7.33 16:15, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Members of the Swiss Federal Council
According to the SVP's website Samuel Schmid is a "former" council and the new council is not even mentioned. Should the two still be listed or maybe removed as it seems to be the "official" policy of SVP now. Santoki (talk) 14:31, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- Both Councillors are members of the SVP as a party, even though they are not officially members of the SVP parliamentary group anymore. Note that the SVP's website is not a third party source, and thus not an ideal source (see WP:SOURCES). Schutz (talk) 19:19, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Cool.
People are getting over WW2, thank god!58.107.183.15 (talk) 10:03, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Things aren't as simple
Merrymouse re-added quite a lot of content that was previously removed by Schutz as "too much detail, not directly connected to the party, and slightly POV"; the source Merrymouse gives is a Financial Times article which, however, doesn't reflect wholly how the voting out of Blocher is seen in Switzerland. "There therefore now exists in Swiss government a situation which seems to represent the collapse, at least temporarily, of the Concordance system which has been in operation since the Second World War, and to represent a sea-change in the nature of Swiss parliamentary relations, from one based on consensus and trust to one based more on confrontation." - well, there are on the other hand Swiss politicians who said quite the opposite, that the system of a consensus-based Federal Council could be strengthened by the removal of the disruptive element that Blocher brought into the Council, if the SVP after their initial anger finally should accept Widmer-Schlumpf as one of their Federal Council members. Widmer-Schlumpf and Schmid are still members of the party although excluded from the parliamentary group of which as members of the Federal Council they never were real members anyway (but they are excluded from the meetings now). There is talk of excluding them also from the party itself; however, this seems to be difficult because usually only the respective cantonal party (in their case Bern and Graubünden) can exclude members, it probably can't be done from the level of the national party. In Switzerland, party members are members of their respective cantonal party, which in turn is a member of the national party. And the cantonal parties of Schmid and Widmer-Schlumpf aren't going to exclude them; therefore there is even talk about excluding the Bern and Graubünden SVP from the Swiss SVP entirely. I will try to add something to reflect this in the article, but will have to cite German-language sources. Gestumblindi (talk) 01:59, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
