Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Pollypenhouse

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[edit] User:Pollypenhouse

Suspected sockpuppeteer
Pollypenhouse (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
Suspected sockpuppets
Iamandrewrice (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log · rfcu)
Report submission by

Whitstable (talk) 22:25, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Evidence

User page mentions user created Clarendon House and GHD, two articles created by User:iamandrewrice who was banned recently. Same style, too.

Comments

Have to agree, I was going to add the same tag. Seems to be self admission by posting names of articles on talk page. Also, seems to know a fair amount about WP whilst claiming newbie status. I'm not 100% sure, so needs further investigation, but matches with use of multiple puppets as per indef block discussion here OwainDavies (about)(talk) edited at 22:30, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

  • Comment No no, there's no need to worry, I am not 'Iamandrewrice' him/herself. I have followed the 'Iamandrewrice' saga for a while now (although not whole the way back unfortunately), and have anonymously been editing and correcting his/her works. If you view my user page edit history, you will observe that I was acquiring difficulties in trying to sort out my awards/contributions, as I found that by adding certain codes, the names of the titles were all changing to 'Userbox,' which obviously was not what I was trying to achieve. I therefore, through this interruption, did not get round to finishing off the boxes themselves. I had written 'Pages I created,' with the LG Chocolate articles underneath, but I had actually intended to write in addition to this, 'and pages I have contributed to,' although as is apparent, I did not get round to this task, although have been reminded to now by your notice. I have now corrected it, and sorry to have caused such confusion. With regards to editing the same pages as the user, as explained above, I was following the events and keeping a close eye on them anonymously. I have been continuing here and there to do as such, but I did find that a few peices of information, although I must admit, it does not amount to very much to count towards the user's contributuity, were of some use, so I read through the parts I thought of his/her work to be useful, and attempted to install them on the pages. For example, what I read of 'Iamandrewrice's edits to Latin Europe, they were of general good faith, although rather unencylopaedic, but I found the sentence he added about Malta (the way I first encountered the user's edits was from an edit to the Maltese Language page by the way) in the Latin Europe page, to be true, and decided it would be rather benefitial to at least make some use of it. That is the cause for the same topic material to be reinstated, but I would hope in a more encyclopedic way. I have not had much time to read up about your 'checkuser' feature, but from what I gather, it involves discovering any possible links between accounts, am I correct in assuming? Well I most certainly would not object to your use of the 'checkuser' to aid you in concluding this. Hope all is well, and happy christmas to everyone who may be reading this. Sorry again to have been so careless to allow this frame of thought to form. Best wishes to all at this merry time of year. Oh and yes I almost forgot myself in this time of rush, I may not be the newest of new users as you correctly point out, but I am rather in need of some help in bettering myself in this line of work. Thank you. Pollypenhouse (talk) 18:34, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment So you are not the same user as iamandrewrice? Even though your claimed birthday on your user page is the same as the claimed birthday on the MySpace of the banned user? Stop wasting our time and your time Whitstable (talk) 10:52, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Added User:Pollypenhouse to current RFCU case, awaiting results. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:33, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
I beg your pardon? Are you suggesting that if I was 'Iamandrewrice,' I would have the sheer ignorance to indicate who I was as a blocked user by stating pages I had made, and my birthday if it was on myspace? And anyway, for your information, I do not have myspace. I have facebook if you would like to perhaps go observe my profile on that gathering that you do not seem to believe me? I find your tone very rude an innapropriate on me. What was it I observed before, Assume good faith! And good day to you, happy christmas! Pollypenhouse (talk) 20:17, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
I would also like to point out, that I did in fact go and have a look at 'Iamandrewrice's myspace page as you requested, and there was no such mention of any birthday. Please stop trying to provide false information whitstable. And I would ask you not to continue to maltreat me in such a manner, or it may be you Whitstable, that finds yourself in this kind of position if you continue to be so uncivilised in your discussions. Also, while I was on 'Iamandrewrice's myspace page, one of the first things I noticed was that they named themselves 'Ben Lavender'. I have not been following the whole saga for the whole time, so pardon me if I missed this news at any point, but is this the correct myspace page for 'Iamandrewrice'? or have I looked at the wrong one? Oh and by the way, yes, such a great link between us two users; we're both sagittarians and are both sixteen, that REALLY is such great evidence! Pollypenhouse (talk) 20:46, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I must have imagined the messages left on that MySpace page wishing a happy 16th birthday on December 4. Oh, no, they really were there. And the person who holds that account was also online...must be another coincidence that you have just mentioned you have logged on there! WP:DUCK Quack. Whitstable (talk) 21:01, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
How very dare you! Are you seriously suggesting that I am working in coincidence with such a fellow?! I have good mind to report you! I am quite sure there is a policy on here about Good Faith, in fact I am most certainly sure, I will find it now! So, just because a while ago, you observed that perhaps a comment was left on December the 4th telling him happy birthday, that his birthday is the same as mine? For a START! we are both sagittarians, so obviously our birthdays will be near each other and someone may have been wishing a late happy birthday! and secondly, i dont see these comments, so I am not under your believing influence I am afraid. And thirdly, even if by some random chance the user did in fact share the exact same birthday with me, I do not in any way understand, forgive me for my ignorance, how that would lead us to a link between us two? So, according to your philosophies, anyone on this site who edits the same articles, and who has the same birthday must be the same person? I am sorry but I do not follow your ideologies. Goodnight to you Whitstable, and I hope that one day you will actually start doing something which would actually be of help to wikipedia, rather than persuing this hopeless case of trying to frame me as something for which I am not. If you would like to know who I am, I can give you my facebook page would you desire it? And one last comment to you Mr Whitstable, if you even had the slightest ounce of intelligence, you would at once realise that the sheer writing style alone sets 'Iamandrewrice' and I away in such a deep gulf in these high seas that only someone as insolent as Iamandrewrice himself would be able to draw up such a conclusion. And for a start, I am a girl! the complete opposite of Iamandrewrice! but then again, I guess it must be more likely that I had a sex change inbetween, than the fact that we are not linked?! Pollypenhouse (talk) 21:14, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Not that that is conclusive - Iamandrewrice claimed to e a girl on several occasions, depending on whom he/she was talking to. OwainDavies (about)(talk) edited at 11:10, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Excuse me?? Have I ever once stated that I am a boy?!!!! I have never such stated anything to the contrary of me being a girl, hence my name 'pollypenhouse,' well actually, polly isn't my real name (Paris is), but most people call me Polly (my middle name). This is ridiculous; you are judging the fact that bloody 'Iamandrewrice' was a transvestite to imply that because I am female i must be the result after his now-completed sex change?!!!!!!! Pollypenhouse (talk) 11:29, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Indeed, Iamandrewrice's birthday is also December 4, 1991. I just checked and saw I sent him an email greeting on that day. And yes, Iamandrewrice did indeed say he was a girl at the beginning of his editing under that name. That said, while I do think that this user is a sock, I do not think s/he is a sock of the actual person who was editing as Iamandrewrice. More likely it is a friend of his, who is also responsible for dozens of socks attributed to the original Iamandrewrice. This issue needs to be thoroughly researched, as Iamandrewrice has posted several times here, and also to me on email, that he is the victim of a "friend's" impersonation of him. While I am here, I should add that Listsvery is also very likely a sock. If you go to the relevant MySpace page, you'll see that the page owner claims "Alex" is one of his best friends; by remarkable coincidence, Listsvery is also named Alex, and is a friend of this suspected sock. Jeffpw (talk) 12:46, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Forgot to add: Both the user under check here as well as Listsvery are either under adoption or have tried to become adopted. That was part of the editing pattern of the other socks from the Iamandrewrice debacle. Jeffpw (talk) 12:49, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Well please can you provide some evidence that I can SEE to show his/her/transvestite's birtday was the 4th Dec. And secondly I don't see how that would link us anyway. And thirdly!!!!!! no I do not know 'Iamandrewrice' in real life! Can you please just do a checkuser because this is getting ridiculous now. I did not join wikipedia to be inquisitated about whether I am a clone of another banned user! My name is Paris polly Larcose. check it on my facebook if you don't believe me!!!!! http://profile.to/ppl/ Oh my god I can't believe I am being FORCED to give you my facebook to prove who I am! Im sorry, I don't have time for this, I was getting on fine constructively editing and do not need you all poking your nose in! And if it is true 'jeffpw' that you have been talking with a banned user, 'Iamandrewrice' in real life, surely this is against policy?? and secondly, my email address (well the one I use anyway, it used to be my sister's) is charlottethenewt@hotmail.co.uk! Is that the same one as you have been emailing?? if not, then please just go do something useful on the site and stop trying to frame me!
If that facebook link doesnt work, try this: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1041739469

PS, it appears after clicking on the link that you have to have your own facebook account to view my profile.

Comment A Facebook account with no friends and a Hotmail address are not going to convince us of anything. Perhaps it's time to block access to the entire Isle of Thanet! Whitstable (talk) 14:02, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Whitstable, what have i told you about not talking to me? I don't want to hear your whining again. Please leave this discussion and leave it to those who can discuss this maturely. I am not a sockpuppet, my name is Paris, not Ben, i am a girl, not a boy, I am editing constructively, not vandalising. But yeah, I forgot, we MIGHT have the same birthday, and Andrewrice was also a transvestite, so does that mean that i am simply the finished result after the boy had the sex change??? So basically, you are saying that I used to be a boy and that I am transgendered, i find that extremely offensive. Pollypenhouse (talk) 14:13, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Anyway, I do have friends on my facebook, what are you talking about?? Pollypenhouse (talk) 14:20, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
I would like to request a checkuser on Whitstable, as he/she seems to be very keen on putting the blame of sockpuppets on me, but how about the fact that he is just trying to cover his own sockpuppetery. Pollypenhouse (talk) 14:27, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
You say how all 'Andrewrice's sockpuppets followed the same pattern of finding an adopter, well it was OwainDavies who suggested the adoption idea to me originally! since I did not even know what it was! I just can't be bothered to discuss this with you. Get the checkuser done now or I'm taking that thing off my page (which it states clearly I am allowed to after a certain period of time with no checkuser actions being taken). Pollypenhouse (talk) 14:32, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Conclusions

Confirmed The email address Pollypenhouse uses is known to be that of the Iamandrewrice banned vandal. --Yamla (talk) 17:18, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Blocked at RFCU. — Rlevse • Talk • 17:07, 28 December 2007 (UTC)