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Contents 1 steeplechase and a point to point 2 NO MERGE - NOT THE SAME 3 Quite a lot of errors 4 Might as well jump 5 What about

[edit] steeplechase and a point to point

What's the difference between a steeplechase and a point to point?

I'm no expert but I think that they are one in the same thing. I have suggested a merge into the steeplechase article--Moonlight Mile 22:51, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

No. They are different. Steeplechase (aka national hunt racing) takes place at full service purpose built racecourses, with the consequential commercial atmosphere. Point-to-points are usually held on farmland with a much less commercial atmosphere. Totally different - at least in England! Anon.

Moonlight Mile, do you have Point-to-Point racing in Australia ? If no, then you should listen to people from counties e.g. U.K. & Ireland who hold Point-to-Point's. They KNOW the differance between National Hunt racing and Point-to-Point racing (Amateur racing) instead of suggesting a merge. No merge Culnacreann

Just to let you know - there are point-to-point race meetings in Australia. You come across in your response as very antagonistic. Moonlight Mile describes the difference as it exists in Australia - PTP are basically amateur meetings with higher weights but using horses that run in steeplechases at standard meetings. I appreciate the difference may be different in the UK but Moonlight Mile's suggestion was not unreasonable and was a SUGGESTION. Tigerman2005

I've removed the merge tag with Point to Point as the concensus on both talk pages is clearly that the two are not the same. --Moonlight Mile 00:50, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NO MERGE - NOT THE SAME

They can't be merged. National Hunt is the Offical Name for jump racing in the UK.[ http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/horse_racing/2390215.stm] Steeplechase is a generic description that applies to all, including the UK's National Hunt. As such, the National Hunt has to remain a separate article defining it with a link/reference in the main Steeplechasing article. - Handicapper 16:18, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

P.S. This article needs a complete rewrite to define the sport and refere to the countries where steeplechase racing is held. - Handicapper 16:23, 17 October 2006

I appreciate what you are saying and agree. Certainly National Hunt deserves it own page but some paragragh on steeplechasing in UK might be a good idea. If you read this you would think the USA was the home of steeplechasing worldwide! I agree with what you say in the PS for sure. Tigerman2005 Apr 6 - 2007

Yes - that defines the difference now, thanks. Was there a difference in the past? For example in the 19th century.

[edit] Quite a lot of errors

There seems to be quite a lot wrong in this article.

There are numerous old fashioned cross country races still going on in the UK and no doubt in Ireland, eg the Ledbury Golden Button challenge on 1 January 2007, the Melton hunt skurry, the Flagg Moore members race over stone walls etc.

Why does the article begin by saying that the term steeplechase is not used in the UK?

What possible justification is there for this article in addition to an article on National Hunt racing? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dr Spam (MD) (talk • contribs) 08:15, 9 May 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Might as well jump

Can somebody add a link, or something, to what the jumps are, what they look like, what difficulties they pose for horse & rider, that like? It'd also be useful here. Trekphiler (talk) 05:12, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] What about

What about Olympic Steeplechase this article does not speak much about running a steeplechase. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.71.79.12 (talk) 19:13, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

That's because the subject of this article is the horse racing steeplechase. For other uses of the term see Steeplechase (disambiguation) at the beginning of the article. Cuddy Wifter (talk) 19:41, 26 March 2008 (UTC)