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[edit] Voyager Crew List

Can we get a full list of every Voyager crew member mentioned in the series and their position? I'm curious how many crew members were actually named and seen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.85.145.134 (talk • contribs)

Sounds like an unnecessary trivial laundry list. Memory Alpha might have one -- maybe not a list per se, but a category page? --EEMeltonIV 21:42, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm of two minds about the whole deal. When Enterprise loses a security guard, they can go to the nearest starbase and restock. It's a bit more vitally important when Voyager loses one, as they cannot. But Memory Alpha has covered it in so much more detail, they got images of everyone who has ever been named and then some. Lots42 05:01, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
Agree that there's a certain fascination in naming the crew of what was mostly a closed community. However I'm not aware of any effort (during initial conception and filming) in any of the Star Trek series to iterate every one of the characters or positions on a ship. I.e., there were some major cast members, some minor ones, guest stars, and all the rest of the actors were extras. There's a tendency find meaning where none existed. (Read "The Making of Star Trek", written in 1968, to see how much and how little there was behind the shows.)
One question about this that sticks in my mind, however, is the feeling that many people were killed on Voyager, yet the ship always seemed fully manned. My "comfort level" is that two or three times as many people were killed in individual episodes than was reflected in the ongoing series. Poetic license, sure. But this ship was in an even more desperate situation than the countdown of humans in Battlestar Galactica. That never shows. 24.6.67.7 (talk) 06:47, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Themes

This section is entirely uncited OR. While I agree with many of the assertions here, lacking a published source to support them, the material shouldn't be in the article. If you can cite (part of) this material to back up these underlying themes, please re-add. --EEMeltonIV 12:52, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

It is uncited, but in the same way as the plot section. That is, these themes are readily apparent to viewers of the show. Given that reason, and because I think they add to the article, I would like to see this section restored. 212.56.88.63 00:19, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Voyager continues the themes presented in the original Star Trek series and Star Trek: The Next Generation, including exploration of space and the human condition. It also demonstrates democratic principles (peace, openness, freedom, cooperation and sharing), philosophical issues such as the sense of self and what it means to be human, and ethical and moral choices. In the Star Trek series, the examination of humanity is often explored by contrasting non-human characters with human ones (for instance, the Earth-born Kirk and McCoy against the Vulcan Spock). On Voyager, non-humans include the Doctor, a computer program; Tuvok, a Vulcan; Neelix, a Talaxian; B'Elanna Torres, a Klingon-human hybrid; Kes, an Ocampa; and Seven of Nine, a human assimilated by the Borg at age 6 and liberated by the Voyager crew.
Voyager was probably more reminiscent of the original Star Trek series than The Next Generation. Although more technologically advanced than Next Generation, the size of the ship is almost identical to the Enterprise of the original series.[citation needed] Seven of Nine's post also grew similar to that of science officer, as held by Spock in the original series. The show was at times grittier than Next Generation; the members of the thrown-together crew clashed in ways unthinkable on Picard's Enterprise, and they relied on alien alliances and trade relationships. This starkly contrasts with Next Generation's "best and the brightest" feel.
Voyager, at times, ignores the concepts of time, fate, and cause and effect. On many occasions, including the series finale, the crew travels forward and backward in time and between parallel universes or timelines, violating the so-called "temporal prime directive" and causing many temporal paradoxes. Most of these episodes involve death, or the prevention of it. Every regular cast member has died at some point during the series, some more than once.
A common plot theme is the implications of being stranded far from home. Voyager has limited resources and no easy way to replenish them; its crew is cut off from the normal chain of command and institutions of Federation society. Janeway often expresses that though they are cut off from Starfleet, it is still the crew members' duty to live by Starfleet values and regulations. This idealism often brings her into conflict with Chakotay and other members of her crew who are more willing to make compromises in order to get home. Their situation confronts them with difficult choices of necessity versus idealism. Unlike the other Star Trek series, the crew of Voyager cannot stop at a starbase for repair or resupply. They often have to make trades with alien cultures or find new solutions to unforeseeable problems. There is also no crew exchange, which makes for new plot twists — for example, shipboard romances are not discouraged — and it also means that promotions are very rare, leading to some resentment. To overcome their cabin fever the crew relies on the holodeck more than other Starfleet crews, with some of their holodeck adventures becoming ongoing plotlines. This includes the Chez Sandríne bar, a tropical resort, the Captain Proton serial, the Fair Haven village, and Janeway's trips to the home of Leonardo da Vinci and a Gothic mansion. Some of these recurring holodeck stories end up behaving in much unexpected (and sometimes dangerous) ways due to alien interference or holodeck malfunction.
In the concluding seasons, the ship's isolation is partially relieved when Lt. Reginald Barclay at Starfleet Command on Earth develops a means for Starfleet to be in regular contact with the ship.

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[edit] Seska

Should there be a bit on Seska in the overview. She was a pivital character in the first season, and could even be recognized as a regular. Was the actress' name in the opening credits? 208.203.4.140 (talk) 23:15, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

This could be 100% wrong, but Seska seemed like a character who went through three "plans" of how to develop her character. She seemed roughly on the status of Wildman (senior) at first. Then it looked as though she'd been "killed off". Then finally, it seemed that someone had decided she'd done an exceptional job as a villain, and brought her back a couple times. To me, she's the most chilling villain who appeared on any Star Trek. I can barely stand to watch her. THAT'S acting.
So there might be quite a lot that could be unearthed about her, who knows? I'll help with Seska, but I don't have any special references / resources.
She and Wildman Jr. merit their own pages, if brief.
Alpha Ralpha Boulevard (talk) 00:38, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Seven's Status

Seven's status needs to be changed. She does not die in the series (only mentioned that she would have died if the crew did not get home in endgame).--88wolfmaster (talk) 20:46, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Looking for help writing an article about the spin-offs and crossovers of this series

I am writing an article about all of the series which are in the same shared reality as this one through spin-offs and crossovers. I could use a little help expanding the article since it is currently extremely dense and a bit jumbled with some sentence structures being extremely repetitive. I would like to be able to put this article into article space soon. Any and all help in writing the article would be appreciated, even a comment or two on the talk page would help. Please give it a read through, also please do not comment here since I do not have all of the series on my watch list. - LA @ 17:41, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Critical reception

This article could do with a new section on the series's critical reception. —Psychonaut (talk) 20:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)