Talk:Stand by Me (film)

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[edit] plagiarism

almost this entire article is plagiarized. this is the big problem with wikipedia; people think they can rearrange a few sentences and break stuff up and it is suddenly good to go. sorry its not, that being said this article should be completely credited to the source given in the OR discussion section, deleted, or reworked. until then the themes are gone, to begin with. Kas0809 (talk) 00:10, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguation

True or false: This page can go on Stand by Me (film) and Stand by Me can be made into a dis-ambiguation page. Any objections?? 66.32.110.184 23:40, 20 May 2004 (UTC)

What other information do you want to include in the dab? RickK 23:41, 20 May 2004 (UTC)

  • Whatever is possible. You know, a dis-ambiguation page has to have at least 2 choices, and there are 2 choices known, the film and the song. 66.245.107.192 00:12, 22 May 2004 (UTC)
    • We generally don't have articles about individual songs, unless they're somehow notable. RickK 02:04, 22 May 2004 (UTC)

Who exactly was Vern Tessio in the film stand by me?

He was the kid in the goofy shirt. You know, verrrrrrn!

[edit] Plot Section

this section doesnt describe the plot at all. it describes the four main characters. you should be able to tell someone what the movie is about after reading the plot. this doesnt even come close.

True. As someone who has only read the book and not seen the film, i will try to add a small but decent plot summary to the article until someone else can elaborate on it. ArdClose 16:50, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

This plot section needs a major overhaul. I made a couple minor changes, but in the grand scheme, it reads like a bad high school book report. I may look into writing a new one, and post here for comments. Tool2Die4 (talk) 18:43, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Castle Rock

Removed a bullet that stated the film was shot and filmed in Castle Rock, Oregon. It's set in Castle Rock, Maine Tellkel 23:17, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

It wasn't set in Maine! its everywhere oregon oregon! God. it's repeated that its in Oregon. The film was shot in Brownsville, Oregon and other places in Oregon too, so its obvious, although Steven King's work was set in Maine, but the film is set in Oregon, as stated in one of the bullets. Ace Fighter 142.162.197.246

The train tressel scene is actually Lake Britton, California, just off highway 89.

Book = Maine. Movie = Oregon. Tool2Die4 (talk) 18:44, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Don't be a Menace" Bullshit

The scene in "Don't Be a Menace..." is a parody of a scene in Boyz N' The Hood --not this film. I removed that uneducated assumption from trivia.

In "Don't Be A Menace", going to the railroad tracks to see a dead body is in reference to "Stand By Me" RobertCMWV1974 21:15, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Differences between book and movie

This list is too long in my opinion. Overall, the film was pretty faithful to the story and this list is isn't particularly useful or informative. James 05:34, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Response: Being the one who put most of the list on the site in the first place, I admit that some of the stuff on it is pretty lame. It might be a good idea to separate the major ones from the minor ones- however, I'm not sure that would go with the neutral-point-of-view policy. If nothing can be decided, then I recommend just leaving it as it is 2Pac 16:31, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

I've just looked at the list and agree with James. I can't see how it would violate NPOV to remove a bunch of it. Things like pointing out that they don't cross a field as a shortcut in the book, that one character said a line instead of another (when it's not crucial to the character's development), and the mayor's name in the Lardass scene are not helpful and are just taking up space. Frankly, the more you add to a list like this, the less NPOV it becomes, because you're bound to miss something. I'd make a list of the major ones, and remove everything else. JM2C. PacificBoy 17:47, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, there you go, it's only your opinion that certain entries on the list are "not helpful and taking up space". Besides, we've got all the space we want, this is an online encyclopedia. And in all honesty, as long as these entries are true, there's no point in debating which ones are good enough to be on the site and which ones aren't. Maybe there's someone out there who wants to find as many discrepancies as possible, for a school paper or something, you never know. So I recommend not removing anything from the list at all, and if you think some of it's crumby, you should just live with that. It's no big deal. 2Pac 19:33, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Dont forget that the article being interesting is also important, not just its accuracy.


i think the list was perfect, i have to do a report on it for school and it helped out a lot.

[edit] Moved Around Information

I moved the thing about a character called Milo Pressman in the show 24, from the Trivia section to the Parodies and Referances section. Ace Fighter 03:15, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] References

"# In the episode of Family Guy where Peter's father is working in the toy factory, the action figure they're making says "*cough, cough,* you kids wanna see a dead body?""

There is no evidence to suggest this is a ref to Stand By Me. King and Reiner did not invent dead bodies, nor young boys' fascination with them. I'm removing it. Satchfan 08:13, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

Could we add to the section, River Phoenix death in his 20's, just like his character 'Chris Chambers'? GoodDay 00:55, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.122.127.162 (talk) 22:54, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Is "In the video games Pokémon Red, Blue, Yellow, Firered and Leafgreen, if the male character is selected at the start then Stand by Me will be playing downstairs on the television at the character's house." a relevant piece of trivia at all? I thought that the current policy was to shy away from mentioning every single pop-culture reference of a movie, book, etc. --JD79 01:45, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


The Pokemon reference is largely baseless as-is, but it would be interesting if anybody could find a source for this. (Even so, it might be more appropriate as trivia on the pages of the respective games.) Without reference, this trivia is baseless; if you frob the TV, the game actually says something along the lines of a movie being shown in which young boys are walking along railroad tracks. Unless somebody can produce an interview with the localization team that establishes this movie to be "Stand By Me", the trivia is baseless. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.201.233.73 (talk) 04:35, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion

As this section has just been deleted, I think some of the points of Stand By Me in a song, cartoon series and music video could probably be reorganised into a Stand By Me in popular culture section. Anyone agree? —Preceding unsigned comment added by ArdClose (talk • contribs) 19:53, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Some of the stuff in the trivia section was essentially useless info, although a few tidbits were somewhat relevant. I would be all for integrating them into the current structure somehow. I will have to look at some other articles and Wiki guidelines and see how they handled it. Tool2Die4 (talk) 20:26, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Stand by me poster.jpg

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BetacommandBot 02:33, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] OR Themes?

I see the Themes section has recently been labelled OR for lack of sources. It should also be noted that the section corrisponds almost exactly to a review found at:

http://pr-gb.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=32957&Itemid=9

One has been clearly copied word from word from the other. Can anyone actually find any sources for this section? ArdClose 20:22, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I slapped the tag on it; admittedly a bit of a tag-and-run but it smells too much like original work and I didn't have time to do any searching for the source. As to the link you give, you'll note that it was posted on that site on 10-21-07. I'm thinking it's a copy from here (with intermediate uncredited steps if you look at the sourcing there). AUTiger » talk 01:56, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possible references

I found a couple of reviews that might be useful as references:

And a couple of books on Google Books:

Hope it helps. Somno (talk) 03:54, 30 May 2008 (UTC)