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[edit] Bosnia?

A Moslem nation has a patron saint?

[edit] scout hymn?

The scout hymn? I was a scout for many years, a beaver and cub too, and have never heard of the scout hymn. Grunners 15:32, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

No all we sang as scouts was either Kum Ba Ya or Ging Gang Goolie, but apprently there is one: [1], [2] -- Francs2000 | Talk [[]] 15:43, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Merge vote of Đurđevdan to St George's Day

I dont think the article should be merged with St. Georges Day, because it is not only the name of the Serbian St. George Day but also a Roma holiday with the same name (with no connection with St. Georges day, accept the date) and a song from the band Bijelo Dugme. Sveti Djordje in Serbia is also NOT a patron saint. Although I think, Djurdjevdan could be mentioned on the St. George Day article. But Djurdjevdan article should remain. Litany

  • Oppose a merging. (see explanation above) Litany 18:49, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Support merge: they are the same thing. --Mais oui! 19:23, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
It is not intotal the same thing. Romas also use the word Djurdjevdan, with their own word Ederlazi. Djurdjevdan is far more known then Ederlazi. Why should not the article remain? Litany 18:02, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
I also have to add that the Gorani , ethnic Slavs of Muslim faith, celebrates Djurdjevdan. They've kept a few Christian traditions although they are Muslims and that is what I have added to the Djurdjevdan article. All this is not mentionable here on St. George's Day - Litany 18:35, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Oppose Different Cultural event, celebrated differently, by a different people, The English. No need to merge.
  • Support - Djurdjevdan literally means "GEORGE'S DAY", celebrated on April 23 (Julian Calendar). Djurdjevdan is St George's Day the same as Mitrovdan is St Demetrius Day. 149.135.41.194 06:29, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Support : Should be merged with the different traditions noted in a section. Lincher 13:43, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Civil Partnership

I think that unless better documentation for that sentence is provided, that it be removed for not being NPOV. --evrik 17:40, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Voting to make a public holiday in England

I'm not entirely sure if it is correct of me to post this link:
http://www.stgeorgesday.com/voting.asp
But I thought it important to mention in the article that it soon might become a bank holiday?
Seraphim Whipp 12:08, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Surely there are too many Bank Holidays in April/May anyhow? They're like London busses! 86.41.130.184 13:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] National Flag

It's a sad, if accurate, relection on the tribal divides inherent in English society, that because the national flag is associated with sports fans, people who are disinterested in sport do not want to identify with it.86.41.130.184 13:33, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

I think people are more hesitant to fly the flag because of its associations with the National Front and the BNP than sports.

It is sad. What's even sadder is that, when England and the English are concerned, the media seem to confuse national pride with racism.
It's also interesting that Google happily changes their logo to a shamrock covered green one on St. Patrick's Day, and yet today... nothing! -- JediLofty User | Talk 16:31, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
This article needs an image of St George's flag, happens to be the flag of England. I don't live in England and so don't associate it with sports fans or anyone else. It is what it is and this is an encyclopedia.--Brenont 03:47, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
England is a country not a nation, so it can't be the "English National Day", nor is there a national flag of England.88.105.241.70 (talk) 21:29, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Also celebrated in Macedonia, Republic of

St. George's Day is also a very well known and celebrated day in the Republic of Macedonia, that was added and should be noted as such. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.87.56.76 (talk) 04:48, 6 May 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Literature Reference

I have recently begun to read Bram Stoker's Dracula. In this book it is mentioned that St. George's Day gives full sway to evil things (as is said in the literature reference section). THis is actually the reason I first looked up the day. However, I find that no explanation here of the day represents that which the book does, what might be the reason for this? Please if you have responses e-mail them to me, thank you.

141.219.231.9 02:56, 15 October 2007 (UTC)Donavon- donavon.y@gmail.com

[edit] Dragon?

How is it that the word "dragon" does not appear in this article, yet two of the images depict St George killing one? 86.135.97.251 (talk) 06:01, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Racist connotation

This day and the saint has racist connotations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.105.144.152 (talk) 17:02, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes indeed. The whole imagery of Saint George & the dragon portrays England as the valiant Christian warrior triumphing over the nasty heathen foreigner. This is why it was adopted as a national emblem during the crusades, & remained a powerful symbol during the Reformation, the British Empire and the country's many wars down through the centuries, right up to the Second World War. However, it is the kind of imagery we should now be distancing ourselves from, especially in light of the UK's involvement in the 'War on Terror' & the kind of racial/cultural tensions this is causing at home & abroad. 81.157.4.229 (talk) 18:54, 23 April 2008 (UCT)

[edit] Removed inaccurate mention of Independent article

I deleted the following, because the linked article does not condemn St George's Day celebrations (it welcomes a celebration of multicultural-England) ..does not call it too Anglo-Saxon. It suggests that the English are wrong to Anglo-Saxonise a Middle Eastern well respected across Southern Europe and Western Asia ..does not make demands, but recommends displaying different qualities of England in the celebrations.

Since whether to celebrate St George's day is a contentious topic in the UK, this misrepresentative stand-alone sentence seems to be a right-wing straw man rather than a useful addition to the encyclopedia.


In 2007, Independent writer Yasmin Alibhai-Brown condemned St. George’s Day celebrations for being too Anglo-Saxon and demanded that the day should celebrate the multicultural aspects of England today.[1] MickO'Bants (talk) 22:00, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

St Georges day is a part of english culture and therefore should be celebrated. Nk70 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.151.194.248 (talk) 20:53, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Removed acts of vandalism

Watch out for unregistered users vandalising this article. I have corrected quite abit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DanDoughty (talk • contribs) 14:08, 30 April 2008 (UTC)