Talk:Squid (food)

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[edit] known allergies/symptoms to calamari

My wife and her friend just spent 5 days/4nights at a resort 90 miles south of Cancun, Mexico. Since they came back 05-05-06 she has been tired, lethargic, diarrœha. Has bumps on her elbows, forehead. Thought it was 2nd degree sunburn, but she is sleeping "real" hard. Only food ate out of ordinary is sushi and calamari. Has no allergies to shellfish/seafood. Any help with this?70.39.36.243 02:39, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Did she adhere to don't drink the water? By the way, wikipedia:talk is the last place you should seek medical advice. It's better to just ask your friends. Potatoswatter (talk) 10:47, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Spelling

I prefer Kalamari to Calamari

You probably don't speak English as a first language. Potatoswatter (talk) 10:47, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

I think it is called Calamary- not Calamari ?

You "think"? Potatoswatter (talk) 10:47, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Article name is limiting

Why limit this article by the method of preparation? Propose that this article be renamed simply "Calamari" so we can talk about other variations too... Socrates2008 (talk) 08:44, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article Deletion

In the English language, calamari is to squid what mutton is to sheep. Deleting the contents of this article and pointing it at squid is considered vandalism. Socrates2008 (talk) 22:32, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. --Gibmetal 77talk 00:38, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

I have thousands of edits on WP and know what vandalism is. Redirecting a fork of an article back to the main article is not vandalism, it is maintenance. I certainly agree that calamari is a culinary name for squid in English (I started the culinary name article, by the way), but this article claims something completely different: that "calamari is a dish", which is absurd. Yes, fried calamari is the best-known dish in the US made of squid, but that doesn't make the two synonymous, and it is certainly not a global perspective. What's more, if the reason for having a "calamari" article separate from the "As food" section of Squid is that it is an English culinary name, why are the Spanish etc. names included in the opening? Remember, WP is not a multilingual dictionary. --Macrakis (talk)

So as someone with "thousands of edits", you are obviously aware of the merge templates and the Wiki procedure for discussing and agreeing the merging of articles. I wonder why you just deleted the article unilaterally then? In any event, kindly do not do so again without reaching consensus first. Socrates2008 (talk) 06:54, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
I did assume you edits were in good faith, however, as Socrates pointed out you should have discussed this first. The the term Calamari is the most widely used in the English speaking world to describe the dish that is fried squid rings. To a lesser extent, the term in the other languages mentioned is also well known in the English speaking world, especially Calamares. --Gibmetal 77talk 13:52, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

OK, so I acted perhaps too boldly. But there are serious structural problems here. There is an extensive "squid as food" section in the squid article, which is far more complete than this article, and has a "global perspective". Either this article needs to be merged into that, or the squid as food section needs to be moved out to its own article.

I see that this article used to be called "Fried calamari", which is a dish (also called "fried squid", of course), and is a more accurate and unambiguous name. Someone moved it (without discussion) from Fried calamari to Calamari, which is a misleading and ambiguous name. And I question the claim that "calamari is the culinary name for cooked squid". It is a culinary name. No one says "roast sheep", but though "fried calamari" is more common than "fried squid" (Google), "stir-fried squid" is more common than "stir-fried calamari". For "grilled", they come out about even. Interestingly, in Google Books, "fried calamari" and "fried squid" are about equally frequent.

As for the claim that "calamari" by itself denotes "fried squid", I'd like a reliable source for that (which recipedia is not). It's not my experience. --Macrakis (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 17:01, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merger of Squid as food with Calamari article

I agree with the merger in principle, but the article title should be Squid (food), like Fish (food), Chicken (food), Duck (food), etc. "Calamari" is pretty specific to Mediterranean dishes -- OED says "squid as an ingredient in (esp. Mediterranean) cookery". "Squid" is the standard, neutral English word. -- Macrakis 18:20, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes not calamari please. Chensiyuan (talk) 14:40, 13 January 2008 (UTC)