Talk:SpVgg Greuther Fürth

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[edit] German football league system (can be confusing)

There was a fair few mistakes in the article about which division the club played in from 1945 to 1974, tried to correct this. The pre-1974 system can be a bit confusing:

• Oberliga = 1st division (until 1963)
• 2nd Oberliga = 2nd division (until 1963)
• Regionalliga = 2nd division (from 1963 to 1974)
• Regionalliga = 3rd division (from 1994 to 2008)
• Regionalliga = 4th division (from 2008)
• No Regionalliga from 1974 to 1994!
• Oberliga = always one league below Regionalliga (from 1963)

EA210269 03:08, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Crest

What is the black and red thing in the crest? I'm just curious what exactly it is, as I can't make it out. It looks almost like a flag of some kind, but it is of a wierd shape, so I don't think that's it. Can anyone help? -- Grant.Alpaugh 22:48, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

From de:Wikipedia - The description of the coat of arms is : divided green and gold, a silver bar above, below a red lined black wooden shoe. So its a wooden shoe taken from the coat of arms of Vestenbergsgreuth which in turn was taken from the coat of arms of a dominant local family known as the Holzschuher (the Woodshoes). Wiggy! (talk) 00:57, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey, thanks. -- Grant.Alpaugh 04:11, 15 May 2008 (UTC)