Talk:Spike (TV channel)

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Why was it moved from Spike TV? They may just say "Spike" on-screen, but the channel is still OFFICIALLY known as Spike TV. If no one objects I will move it back later today. TJ Spyke 20:00, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Demographics 2 Gallery of logos 3 A Reminder From The Past 4 Fair use rationale for Image:TNNlogo.PNG 5 Huh? : "Spike TV/Spike (2003-present)" section 6 Incoherancy repaired? 7 Fair use rationale for Image:Thenewtnnlogo1.gif

[edit] Demographics

I do not know who tagged the article with "unreferenced," but I think I know why. Please source the demographic statements at the end of the opening paragraph. - Desmond Hobson 22:34, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gallery of logos

I have asked an admin with a lot of experience in fair use images. This is her reply:

That's quite a tough one because there is no strict guideline where you could point and say: here it is! (BTW, I am not keeping up with latest developments on fair use policies) My take at this: If someone wrote an article Logos of Spike TV or a decent section about them then it would be ok to show all those logos (of course, the article might be subject to WP:OR and notability guidelines). As of right now, it is a violation of the policy because there are too many of them (FUC#3), they do not identify the subject of the article (the first logo used in the infobox does, FUC#8), they do not illustrate text (in fact the section has no text, FUC#8). Also practical look: such galleries do not belong to articles in any case, even if the images are free (Wikipedia is not an image gallery). That's my take on this. Renata 03:16, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

My own understanding is the same as Reanata's. We use to blankly forbid all galleries of fair use images. Now we allow it in exceptional circumstances, but I do not find the circumstances exceptional. I am removing the gallery Alex Bakharev 03:26, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I personally just came to this page to see all the old logos and remember the past... I guess Wikipedia isn't about maintaining all knowledge. Unfortunate. -24.141.153.56 05:42, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A Reminder From The Past

I love watching World's Wildest Police Videos and those actual chases remind of me what Spike TV used to be when they used to cover live NASCAR racing. Those non-NASCAR chases has no pit stops, no green flags, no checkered flags, no stoppages of rain, no red or yellow flags, just all-out chases in freeways and streets where NASCAR is afraid to sanction those races. Wow, what a Classic show User:Joey Chesnavich 13:20, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

i think the person who invented spike tv was very smart. but what i dont get is why the heck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! would you take off slamball signed

                                               yo momma 
                             

             p.s.       yyyyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh        trick   yyyyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:TNNlogo.PNG

Image:TNNlogo.PNG is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

BetacommandBot 04:35, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Huh? : "Spike TV/Spike (2003-present)" section

_ _ This title is too cryptic for a section, in spite of the sent in the lead 'graph that says

By mid-2006, the on-screen name was shortened to simply "Spike."

(And i, for one, am likely not to read the lead for inside-baseball details on large topics i'm already acquainted with.) It doesn't sound like the name change was even a clearly recognizable event, let alone a notable one, let alone one that characterizes the roughly 3 years since the end of the preceding section's scope, as a section title must.
_ _ I doubt i have the best perspective to fix this mess, but i can improve it, and others can work from there.
--Jerzy•t 18:41, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Incoherancy repaired?

I found

Though the programming is still aimed at the male demographic (age 18-35), Spike no longer makes the claim of "the first network for men". This is, in part, due both to the fact that there had been earlier forays into "male-only" television (such as MenTV in Canada) to the risk of losing its Canadian audiences due to risk of "duplication" (in terms of programming and target audience) according to Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission regulations.

The second sentence is nonsense for lack of an "and" to pair with the "both". I inserted an "and":

Though the programming is still aimed at the male demographic (age 18-35), Spike no longer makes the claim of "the first network for men". This is, in part, due both to the fact that there had been earlier forays into "male-only" television (such as MenTV in Canada) and to the risk of losing its Canadian audiences due to risk of "duplication" (in terms of programming and target audience) according to Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission regulations.

then reflected the likelihood that "due ... to the fact" is unverifiable, and cleaned up various things that are problems if my "and" is correct:

Though the programming is still aimed at the male demographic (age 18-35), Spike no longer makes the claim to be "the first network for men". Presumable motivations for this include acknowledging earlier attempts at "male-only" television (such as MenTV in Canada), and the risk of losing access to its Canadian audiences due to a claim of "duplication" (in terms of programming and target audience) contrary to Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission regulations.

IMO it still needs work: explanation is needed of what they should fear duplicating and why they would believe that they can hide their target audience unless they are willing to change their programming to do it! It also would reduce confusion if a non-Canadian prior example were available to add or substitute: as it stands, i'm still not sure that the Canadian origin of MenTV is not part of the problem with the RTC regs.
--Jerzy•t 22:06, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Here's another like it:

most of the two network systems

which i can only interpret as meaning the same as

both of the two network systems

I'm replacing the language i found with

worth up to $80 million, despite each of those network systems having previously aired at least part of the original trilogy

But in case it means something else, this is here to help in cleaning up the new mess i've made.
--Jerzy•t 23:01, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Thenewtnnlogo1.gif

Image:Thenewtnnlogo1.gif is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

BetacommandBot (talk) 21:42, 26 November 2007 (UTC)