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The whole terminology here is confusing. We all know that spanish americans are decendants from SPAIN born in America, and by America I mean the Americas. I would say that the correct term for the definition given on this site is Latin US American. Also if you want to talk about African descendants born in the United States, they should be called African US Americans. An African American can come from Colombia, Republica Dominicana, USA, etc, countires that are part of the Americas. Again, America is not a country, it's a Continent!
[edit] Spanish People in Newark, NJ?
Spanish people in Newark, NJ? The people in Ironbound are all Portuguese and Brazilians. There might be a few people actually from Spain, but they are a small minority.
[edit] Census form
The census form makes it impossible to get any sort of useful a truly useful count of Spanish Americans, so I propose that a box for them be added to the existing ones for Mexican/Mexican American/Chicano, Cuban, Puerto Rican and Other Hispanic, along with a small edit to the text for the latter. The new question would look like this, then:
Question 5 on long form
Is this person Spanish/Hispanic/Latino? Mark [X] the "No" box if not Spanish/Hispanic/Latino. ✗ No, not Spanish/Hispanic/Latino ✗ Yes, Puerto Rican ✗ Yes, Mexican, Mexican Am., Chicano ✗ Yes, Cuban ✗ Yes, Spaniard/Spanish (Spain) ✗ Yes, other Spanish/Hispanic/Latino — Print group or country name.
SamEV 10:20, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Plus if the "ancestry Question" is anwered properly, the White Hispanic's with Spanish ancestors via any Latin American country, you can then get a 'REAL' idea of how many people are of Spanish descent...although many already answer the racial question as White, but dont state their roots/ancestors.
Saying your ancestry is Puerto rican, Argentine, Cuban, doesnt help unless your confused of your background..that is a "Nationality"...like "American", "Cuban", "Argentine".
'Question 10 on long form:
What is this person's ancestry or ethnic origin? (for example: English,Scottish,Irish,Welsh,Italian, Swedish,Portuguese,African-Am,Cambodian,Cape verdian, Norwegian,,Dominican,and so on.) ---------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.42.146.7 (talk • contribs) 21:09, 14 October 2007
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- Because many Latinos who call themselves "Spanish" actually mean "Hispanic" or "Latino," it's not clear how many of those who only answered "Spanish" in the Hispanic origin write-in space or in the Ancestry question really are Spanish American. Also 2.5 million respondents to the ancestry question reported "Hispanic"; who can tell how many are Spanish American and how many are not? That's why it's so difficult to get as good an estimate of Spanish Americans as for others. ... Anyway, for some reason I opted for posting this suggestion here rather than write the Census Bureau. I guess I wanted someone else's opinion about it first. Thanks. SamEV 21:29, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes this is the problem with Americans using the completly wrong usage , refering to Spanish people as people that come from from a Spanish speaking background,......like calling an Australian or a scottish ,Irish and a New zelander or even a Jamaican....Are you English?....just because they speak english. Thats why if they answered their ancestry question properly, this would help also.. This article is to help clear up this problem hopefuly.. Hispania 01 November 2007 (UTC)
There should be an additional box or scheme for the large number of people who are only part Latino, i.e. the product of intermarriage of a Latino/a with a non-Latino. Tmangray 17:52, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
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- We need to remember, Latin is a language group, not an ethnicity, so thus one cannot be half latino. Latino would be anyone who can speak a latin language, or is a descendant from a country where a latin language is spoken. Casey14 23:42, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
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- Tmangray is talking about Latinos, a U.S. ethnicity, so yes, one can be half-Latino, just as one can be of half-Jewish ethnicity or half-Danish ethnicity or half-Irish ethnicity. "Latin" is a different subject. SamEV 21:29, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] History of Latinos and Hispanics
Please consider contributing to the article entitled History of Latinos and Hispanics. Thank you! --JuanMuslim 1m 02:05, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] list of Spanish Americans
Please see new article, List of Spanish Americans, which needs a lot of improvement work. Thanks Hmains 04:58, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Descendants of conquistadores
The Spanish Conquistadores conquered Mexico and traveled north to conquer New Mexico. In the process they had children from the Native Americans of the New Mexico Territory. The descendants of these "marriages" are commonly called Spanish Americans in New Mexico. Other terms used to describe these descendants include: genizaros, coyotes, and manitos. SLucero2 15:38, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
This may be true in some parts fo th U.S, but we can assume that most people who answer their ancestry question correctly today , i know what you mean though ,which occurs in alot of Hispanos. but its just understanding what you are, ancestry or race wise.Hispania 25 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] race?
are spaniards white or hispanic? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.95.13.82 (talk) 14:49, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
- White Hispanics. SamEV 05:00, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Spanish people are white like the others europeans the problem is that when this expression appear "hispanic" ,people saw many mexicans and other latin americans and saw that the most part of then were not white.but why many mexicans and other latin americans are not white?Because of the big racial miscegenation with blacks and indians.in fact 30 percent of the mexican population are pure indians and 60 percent are a mixed between white and indian.So if a indian mexican enter in usa he should choise in a racial classification native american (because all really native people from american continent is native american).but what he does? he doesn't choose native american , why? because tv and other things say that he is hispanic so he thinks like many other people that hispanic is race .And than people started thinking if hispanic people are not white so spanish are not white. But spanish people ,people from spain are white because they are native from europe .if you see the racial classification of the usa governament you see that all europeans , ALL EUROPEANS south,north,east,west are white . —Preceding unsigned comment added by Augusto 201.17.99.243 (talk) 06:32, 6 February 2008 (UTC) Augusto f. arruda fontes
[edit] Please check this edit
This edit was not given any justification. Can someone please verify it? -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 06:30, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
