Talk:Social welfare in New Zealand

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You need some images (especially graphs). I have asked Tony Milne to release a graph he did into the public domain at http://tonymilne.blogs.com/i_see_red/2007/01/minimum_wage_ye.html . Can someone upload it if he does release it? Cheers,

Yes - some other suggestions are minimum wage protests, a WINZ building, a state house. If anyone feels an article needs a picture just use the request template as I have above.

[edit] Social Policy divided into Social Welfare, Fiscal Welfare, and Occupational Welfare

I have introduced this idea to this page in the second sentence. The implications are larger than I expected. Clearly Social Welfare article written from American perspective does not make this distinction. Much of the material in this article would be separated into those domains.

The catagories from social policy perspective are important because according to Titmuss they draw attention to the way the service is distributed. Social policy is concerned with the distribution of resources and life opportunities. Withit 09:33, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal to move working for families to fiscal welfare

This "financial benefit" is administered through IRD. Citizens do not receive this benefit unless they are earning, and therefore paying tax. It is in relation to employment and family situation that this benefit is paid. This is clearly a samll distinction, I realsie, but I think it is important. There is a trend to link a benefit more directly to an economic benefit to society. Social welfare is not paid with this expectation. I will delete after three days. The wiki member who added the catagory is not wanting to participate in editing any longer. Withit 00:29, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm confused about what you are proposing.
Do you mean you want to move the article Working for Families? I strongly oppose this. The article title is the name of the package, whereas fiscal welfare is a generic term not unique to New Zealand and not well known in this country. This is the wrong place to propose renaming it anyway.
If you mean you want to rename the section Social welfare in New Zealand#Working for Families, then I have no opinion. Since it's an empty heading at the moment, I suggest you be bold and just go ahead.
If you were thinking of adding a section to the fiscal welfare article about New Zealand's Working for Families package, I'm slightly opposed. Adding any substantial content about a single country will unbalance that article; you'd need to add paragraphs about the fiscal welfare policies of several countries at least.-gadfium 01:47, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. I propose to adding a section to fiscal welfare called working for families, and other sections that wefare policy relates to. I take your point that this would unbalanced from a single countries perspective. Such information would be very difficult to research. Perhaps another user will contribute if this is incomplete. Withit 08:02, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Seeing that the category was still there I have added a brief summary of the package. I think this is appropriate as it appears this article will also include a brief summary of any major package or changes to social welfare in New Zealand (the 1991 benefit cuts are already included).wikicharlie23 08:33, 25 April 2007 (UTC)