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[edit] Renewal

As a fellow fan of the Silent Hill franchise and a member of the Wikipedia community, I feel as though the SH articles are unequal in both attention and quality when compared to well established entries such as Metal Gear and Resident Evil. Although it is inevitable that the series may not have a vast fandom community as those listed previously, this does not justify the series article, for instance, seeming to lack even the smallest of details frequently occuring in others, such as the Japanese character spelling [since the franchise is of that origin] and logo to name a few for the preamble. If it is okay, I would like to list several suggestions of improvement for the article(s), but first I'd like to see if everyone would would agree whether several pages need heavy revisions. I acknowledge the fact that such edits can not happen overnight, but I was hoping others were interested in contributing to changing article content formats and such. This way we can discuss overcoming several obstacles that may be encountered as well [regarding self-interpretations of symbolism, etc.]. Godzilla 10:12, 05 May 2007 (UTC)

Sounds like you're just the fellow we need to join the Silent Hill Taskforce. Marasmusine 14:59, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
My main focus at the moment is to heavily edit the various amounts of trivia and original research. Stuff like the 'Themes and motifs of Silent Hill' section I removed might seem obvious to players of the game, but unless it's been commented on by an independent reliable source, we can't have it here. Marasmusine 15:03, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
These two reviews for the first game might be able to help you with that. --Lenin and McCarthy | (Complain here) 16:06, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
Silent Hill (サイレントヒル Sairento Hiru?), I retrieved this from earlier versions from back in 2006 and I was wondering if it can be verified for reliablility before being posted. Godzilla 14:06, 05 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Themes section

The themes and motifs section is almost all original research. It badly needs trimmed and sourced, if possible. If neither is done in the next couple of days I'm going to take it down. Levid37 11:26, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Okay instead of taking it down completely I've heavily trimmed it. It still needs sourced and worked on but now a huge chunk of the original research has been taken out. Levid37 18:54, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comics split

Thanks to the good work of the various editors the comics section is looking solid and is in a form where it could be split off into its own entry. It couldn't really be expanded much more without unbalancing the entry and even as it stands can form the solid core of its own entry. I've suggested Silent Hill (comic book) as a good final location. (Emperor 02:45, 17 February 2007 (UTC))

Agree--Releeshan 03:15, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

  • The comics naming conventions would suggest Silent Hill (comics), but I'm not sure there's much to split. It all looks to be plot summary to me. Hiding Talk 22:03, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
    • In some ways that is the point of the split. It is rather stalled as expanding it would tend to unbalance the entry so they have been kept in a bonsai version. There is more to add, like links as well as references and the like and it can't be done as it stands. (Emperor 03:18, 18 February 2007 (UTC))

Agree--Sounds like a good idea to me. Ms408 16:00, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Anyone else got any ideas/input? (Emperor 15:32, 7 March 2007 (UTC))

OK seems to get a general thumbs up. When I find the time I'll sort this out. (Emperor 04:05, 14 March 2007 (UTC))

All done to Silent Hill (comics). It still needs expanding but it had a good start so already looks solid. (Emperor 23:58, 21 March 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Fanmade film

There's a fan made film called Silent Hill: No Escape that might benefit of a mention http://noescape.rateofinjury.com/main.htm

I don't know in which section to put it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Synista (talk • contribs) 05:03, 6 March 2007 (UTC).

If you find more stuff like this, it'd make a good "in popular culture" section. 66.181.151.66 (talk) 20:58, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Fungo of Silent Hill media is currently making a Silent Hill documentary. http://shm.silenthillfever.com/--Sherwood-Nightshade (talk) 00:49, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Not sure if it would fit the notability guideline. --Lenin and McCarthy | (Complain here) 03:23, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Silent Hill: Double Under Dusk

hey guys, I have just added a small note about the new interative manga comic for Konami mobile network which is going to released this summer in Japan. Not much to say really but it's good to let people know that the series is still expanding.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by The real deal (talk • contribs) 11:07, 6 July 2007.

What's a "Konami's cellphone network" though?--Svetovid 12:27, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Setting : location of Silent Hill

« On the official Konami web site, the "map" section is imprinted with a fleur-de-lis, a traditional French symbol. »
Not quite since 1789.
Modern French symbols are either the tricolor flag or the Marianne ( the face of a woman wearing a Bonnet Phrigien. )
Silent Hill certainly takes place way after 1789 :)
On the other hand, the Fleur-de-Lys is a symbol for Quebec.
That would feel more consistent with the diverse locations of Silent Hill putting it somewhere in America.
--Mathomstore 02:58, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of Trivia Section

I know it's probably been gone for some time, but I thought the trivia section was good. I liked the article with the section better than without. Does anybody feel the same? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Northwindbrat (talk • contribs) 07:47, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I think the main problem with the trivia section is that it was a trivia section. Marasmusine 09:00, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
If you think there were any valuable information, please add them to relevant sections.--Svetovid 17:13, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More Mason-ry

Please stop changing Heather's name in the SH3 description. Leave it as Heather to avoid confusion\editing wars. --Thaddius (talk) 18:07, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I have posted a note on the talk page of the editor who is adamant about it being Morris. Hopefully it will bring a civil discussion here and not continue as an editing war. --Thaddius (talk) 17:35, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
I believe there's actually a CNN article that references her as "Heather Morris". --Lenin and McCarthy | (Complain here) 21:44, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

See? It's "Morris". Why would the name stated on the back of the box be a lie? The people even said she was named after he voice actor-Heather Morris. And the above user even states another source. I'm not the "bad guy" here. The ones putting it incorrectly as "Mason"-which also pretty much spoils the whole game right there-are the ones being villianous.24.3.180.166 (talk) 00:54, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Nobody's being 'villianous'--it's the last name of a fictional character from a single game on a page about a whole series of games. It is an incredibly trivial point. Rather than include such a divisive and trivial line for people to constantly fight over, the page is improved by omitting her last name altogether. It doesn't matter what her name is, especially not to somebody reading a summary of the series on Wikipedia. --waka (talk) 07:30, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

It DOES matter. It's something included on every other video game page, and every other character on this page as well. Her last name is Mason. There is no debate, just a small handful of people who refuse to accept the truth.24.3.180.166 (talk) 09:30, 11 June 2008 (UTC)