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Here are some instances where massage actually did assist in curing Polio. Some people may not realize the damge stress can have on the body. Massage actually releases toxins from the body, which does improve health. Why would it be then, that serious ailments cannot be helped or even cured by massage. In this day and age I am amazed that people can still be so closed minded. The entry below is FROM wikipedia, under "massage" not specifically shiatsu, but hopefully it will help you understand

"An actor (Alan Alda) most famous for his role as Hawkeye Pierce in the television series M*A*S*H. Alda contracted polio at age seven, during an epidemic. His parents administered a painful treatment, developed by Sister Elizabeth Kenny, in which hot woollen blankets were applied to the limbs and the muscles were stretched by massage.[21] Dinah Shore was a big band singer, actress and talk show host. Shore caught polio, aged 18 months, which left her right leg crippled. She recovered strength through massage, swimming and tennis.[22] Wilma Rudolph was a track and field athlete, Rudolph was the first American woman to win three gold medals at the Olympic Games. At age four, she contracted polio and lost the use of her left leg. After five years of massage and exercises, she managed to walk again without her leg braces. By the time she was a teenager, Rudolph was faster than the boys in her neighbourhood were. Rudolph won a bronze medal, aged 16, at the 1956 Summer Olympics and three gold medals in the 1960 Summer Olympics.[23] Bud Daley was a Major League Baseball pitcher. Commonly reported to be a right-hander who had to learn to play southpaw after an attack of polio in childhood left his right arm weakened and shortened. Daley instead asserts that his right arm and shoulder were damaged at birth when forceps pinched a nerve. A combination of massage and exercises helped restore his limb to health." 75.71.228.245 19:32, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Capitalization

Almost all instances of the word shiatsu in this article are capitalized. Is there any reason for that? It's not a proper noun. It should be capitalized only in such phrases as International Shiatsu Association. JamesMLane t c 09:10, 19 August 2006 (UTC)


Am I the only one who thinks this article has some embarrasingly stupid entries? "contraindications... trauma (wounds, broken bones, dislocations)" Anyone else think that its somewhat unnecessary to suggest that masaging a broken bone or gunshot wound will not in fact heal it? ALso, hardly NPOV, and I doubt very much that shiatsu will heal paralysis.

Then change anything you find inappropriate, or exercise a healthy critique as to what you think is POV. I am afraid the concept "Shiatsu" exists, whether you like it or not. The way to do is to cite opinions for and against, it should not just be removed. Dieter Simon 00:01, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
The question is not (as you so kindly tried and failed to point out) whether or not I like the idea of shiatsu existing, rather it is whether or not I like the idea of something being billed as an encyclopedia claiming that massage will heal serious nerve disorders like paralysis, viral diseases like polio, or vitamin deficiencies like beriberi. Hence the NPOV flag which you mysteriously removed. I don't particularly feel like doing a bunch of research right now to revamp this article, and frankly it doesn't interest me much, so I'd leave that to someone conversant on the subject. Which now that I think about it is the exact point of the NPOV flag, is it not? Since when does NPOV flag = delete this article?--70.70.143.237 07:00, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
70.70.143.237, yes we as Wikipedians want you to edit this article. That is what it is all about. If you have expert knowledge, don't hold back. Give the various pros and cons, of what other experts say, and we will be very happy. You should not, however, include your own research into the subject which has not been already published by other sources. Dieter Simon 18:08, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Here's the problem - extraordinary claims like that shiatsu can cure cancer require extraordinary evidence. Link to the studies that show that shiatsu is effective in all of these things and they can go in. Otherwise, the entire section of what shiatsu cures is totally inappropriate for Wikipedia. Phil Sandifer 23:34, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

The entry for Quantum Shiatsu, Cliff Andrews Pauline Sasaki, Cliff Andrews claims are called quack medicine by Professor David Colquhoun of University College London www.dc'simprobable science page. Nothing more to add. (user j garrington 17/8/2007)