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Contents 1 Joke 2 Spelling 3 About his age 4 Cleanup 5 Relationship with Edna 6 Despite the Armenianesque surname... 7 Name 8 Seymour Skinner 9 Relation to B. F. Skinner? 10 Links to New Orleans 11 War Experience

[edit] Joke

Come on, who keeps deleting the 'Principal Skinner is an old man who lives at the school' quote. I hate when people add biased opinions on here, or dumb stuff, but Ralph wiggum said it in an episode. and besides, Skinner IS old, he IS a man, he may not necessarily live at the school but he is often there and the term 'living at the school' could be a compliment that means he is commited to the school and cares a large amount about the school and how it functions. because aside from his personal relationships (his mother and Edna) he is usually only seen in scenes in (or about) the school. Plus it's an inside joke, anyone who reads the line would recognize the line and where it's from.—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])

Well if it's quotes you want, how about quotes from Skinner... he's always saying things he doesn't realize have other meanings, like when he is tied up in a Dodge Ball bag, and tells the hamster "Chew through my ball sack" etc. User:Pedant 06:29, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spelling

Tamzarian or Tanzarian? I've always understood it as the former. There's also more hits (last name only) on the former (c. 28,000) than the latter (c. 10,000) on Google. (While SES' principal, or entities related to such (ie user names based on his birth name) are at the top of the list in both searches, I believe it is a common Armenian name, just unsure to spelling. --Canuckguy 23:38, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

It's Tamzarian, at least according to http://www.thesimpsons.com/episode_guide/0902.htm and http://www.snpp.com/episodes/4F23. 64.231.15.109 00:05, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

That first link says that it's Tamzarian, but the second link says that it is Tanzarian. I've watched the episode and I'm pretty sure they say "Tanzarian" (with an N). --Hnsampat 16:01, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Then again, that first link is to the official Simpsons website, so I guess we go with that. --Hnsampat 16:02, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Also, I am glad to see some users have changed the first name to "Armen" which is the correct Armenian first name (as opposed to "Armin"). I'm Armenian and my uncle bears this name with that spelling. I've never seen it spelled any other way.

Armin Shimerman -Platypus Man | Talk 00:01, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Alas, Armin Shimerman is not Armenian. So "Armen" is more accurate. Wolfdog 02:03, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

The Simpsons website says it's "Armin" so I changed it to that even though it may not be the "correct" Armenian name. --W00tfest99 14:53, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

It is actually Armin which is a very common German name.

The article still says Armen. Fix it? I'd think it was Armon.

[edit] About his age

The article currently states his age was referred to twice. I am not aware of Kent Brockman ever referring to his age, but I know Superintendent Chalmers says he is 44, in "Grade School Confidential." http://www.snpp.com/episodes/4F09 Has Chalmers been confused with Brockman, or is this a third instance of a reference to his age?

[edit] Cleanup

Anyone else think this is a messy article? --711groove 06:04, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree, it's way too long and needs to be separated up into smaller, more concise paragraphs for a start.

[edit] Relationship with Edna

Anyone think there should be a few lines about his only form of love life. His relationship with Edna?

[edit] Despite the Armenianesque surname...

What makes him Armenian like this article suggests? Should we also say he's Jewish then because of his first name?--Greasysteve13 09:14, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Agree; his Armenian heritage is only assumed because of his name, and his ethnicity is irrelevant to his character (as opposed to the Scottish-ness of Groundskeeper Willie or the Indian-ness of Apu). Certainly the detail does not deserve to go in the first paragraph in the article. Kransky 11:01, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Totally agreed. There is no credible evidence that he is Armenian. To put it in we need a reliable source that says "is Armenian". User:Pedant 06:33, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Name

Isn't Seymour Skinner a play on words...like "see more skin-ner". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.175.23.73 (talk) 04:17, 16 March 2007 (UTC).

I thought his name paid homage to Leonard Skinner, the "by the book" coach that Lynyrd Skynyrd named themselves after. Can someone cite a source that proves that the character is named after the educators listed in the article? Respectfully, SamBlob 00:04, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Seymour Skinner

This article is about Armen Tamzarian rather than Seymour Skinner. Shouldn't Skinner have an article as well?ufossuck 03:34, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

As a one-time character from The Simpsons, the real Seymour Skinner has a section in List of one-time characters from The Simpsons#Sgt. Seymour Skinner. Respectfully, SamBlob 23:59, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Relation to B. F. Skinner?

Is it possible, Skinners name ist chosen because of the famous behaviourist B. F. Skinner? B. F. Skinner had a big influence on american post war education. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._F._Skinner —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.72.226.167 (talk) 20:21, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Um... The article already says that... -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 20:23, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

In the episode itself, they reveal he is ARMENIAN and his last name is Tamzarian. Get your simpson facts straight :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.228.82.159 (talk) 23:00, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Links to New Orleans

What's to be taken closer to canon: The Simpsons Spin-Off Showcase or The Principal and the Pauper? The former indicates his youth was spent in New Orleans, whereas the latter puts a longer timespan as having been spent in Capitol City. Granted, the former could be assumed to fictionalised accounts of each of the spin-off stories, but they do seem to at least be rooted in the character's histories. Cheers! --Bossi (talk • gallery • contrib) 18:06, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] War Experience

The article mentions, twice, that he has been a prisoner of war in Vietnam. The Principal and the Pauper implied that this is not the case, he went to war for a short time and came back, stealing the story of the real Skinner. I see no reason why the prisoner of war stuff remains. The real Skinner is the one who went to POW camp, which is why he did not return to Springfield earlier. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.75.62 (talk) 13:40, 29 April 2008 (UTC)