Talk:SEPTA Subway–Surface Trolley Lines
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[edit] 1906?
1906 is listed as the date of first operation in the infobox. Is this when the subway tunnel opened, or is it just the beginning of streetcar service in Philadelphia? --Jfruh 19:52, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
- According to Dr Harlod Cox "The Road From Upper Darby" c. 1967-: 1906 is neither the year that: streetcars began in Philadelphia, horsedrawn streetcars made thier appearance in the 1850's. Nor is 1906 the year that the Philadelphia Rapid Transit Co(PRT) was created, It was created by an act of the Pennsylvania Legilslature in June 1901. It's articles of incorporation were drawn up in 1902. And 1906 was not the year that subway surface car service began, the first subway route was the Market Street and Haddington line (Numbered streetcar routes do not make thier appearance until sometime between 1909 and 1911.) in 1905. 1906 was a very important year in the transit history of Philadelphia however. It was the year that the 69th street terminal opened. It was the year the trains for the Market Street El & Subway arrivied (They began service the following year.) And it was the where West Philadelphia streetcar routes other than the future route 31 began to go into the subway. (comment by J311rk)
[edit] Revenue miles
There are said to be over 60 miles of trackage in the SEPTA subway-surface lines operating as of spring, 2006, but no source on the Web appears to list revenue-miles, that is, travel distances along each of the separate and common routes.
Craig Bolon 10:26, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Station Naming Conventions
Just so everyone knows, I have proposed a naming convention for SEPTA stations, with discussion here. The proposed conventions will require considerable changes for MFL and undergound Subway Surface stations. Please feel free to contribute there.-- danntm T C 16:32, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Map errors
The map shown on the right has some substantial errors. Route 13 goes to Yeadon via Chester Ave. while Route 11 goes to Darby via Woodland. Further, Route 13 splits off from Route 11 before Route 36 does. I'd fix it myself, but I can't figure out how to change the map. 24.207.160.25 (talk) 10:49, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
