Image talk:Senate in session.jpg

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Please provide full details about this image -- who took/created it, when it was taken/created, where it came from, and under what license it falls.

  • For images from a wholly public domain site (e.g., US government sites), a URL for the image and another URL for the site's privacy policy (if not obviously a PD site) suffices.
  • For other images, particularly fair use images, the news service or photographer should be noted, along with the (approximate) date of the photo -- this helps keep track of when fair use becomes public domain.
  • For photographs of old artwork, the title and creator (and date) of the artwork *must* be noted; please also note the source and creator of the photograph.

Where was this taken? When? By an AP or a government photographer? It may be obvious to you, but not to a reader... +sj+ 06:17, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I'm not really sure how to go about chaning things with images, but just to add a point or two:

meamemg 18:31, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Licensing

A licensing history, so we can more easily see who claimed what.

  1. User:Jiang uploads the image without a source or license.
  2. User:Anthony says, "Probably PD, but I can't prove it."
  3. User:Lord Emsworth sources the image to the "Associated Press, 1998."
  4. User:Anthony says, "C-SPAN's video coverage of the floor proceedings of the U.S. House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate is public domain, but it is unclear whether this is that footage."
  5. User:Lord Emsworth sources a black-and-white version of this image to the Associated Press, 1998, via the Holland Sentinel, and contends this to be fair use.
  6. User:Anthony reiterates, "C-SPAN's video coverage of the floor proceedings of the U.S. House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate is public domain, but it is unclear whether this is that footage. If not, this is contended to be fair use."
  7. User:Ardonik claims in an edit summary, "Given the image description, I think {{fairuse}} is appropriate (though this is most likely {{PD}})."
  8. User:82.55.86.134 claims that the image is {{PD-US}}.
  9. User:Dwp49423 claims that this is "CNN Video" and thus "NOT PUBLIC DOMAIN," nominating it for speedy deletion.
  10. User:Robth claims that it might not be public domain, but takes off the speedy deletion tag and claims fair use, writing a fair use rationale.
  11. User:LordHarris expands the fair use rationale, while also sourcing it to both "C-SPAN's video coverage of the floor proceedings of the U.S. Senate, in session during the impeachment trial of Bill Clinton" and the "Associated Press, 1998," via the black-and-white version on the Holland Sentinel.
  12. User:Happyme22 expands the fair use rationale.
  13. User:RG2 nominates the image for deletion here.
    1. User:Meamemg claims, "this comes from a screen shot from the U.S. Senate cameras. As indicated by the C-SPAN website, this is in the public domain [1]."
    2. User:Ngchen claims, "the fair use rationale is amply documented. Even if fair use cannot be established, C-SPAN has released it into the public domain."
    3. User:Lankiveil claims, "this is a public domain image, and therefore not a copyvio."
    4. User:Happyme22 agrees with the arguments to keep the image.
    5. User:Ngchen claims, "the uploader is a very well-respected long-term contributor, as such there is no reason to doubt his assertion that the image came from C-SPAN."
  14. User:Ngchen claims that this is the work of the United States Congress, rather than C-SPAN.
  15. User:Nv8200p keeps the image, electing to assume good faith.

If we go by the first concrete assertion that we can source this image to C-SPAN, we should go by User:LordHarris, although he claimed fair use. -- RG2 00:48, 26 November 2007 (UTC)