Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/August 10

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[edit] El Primer Grito de Independencia

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"1809 – History of Ecuador: After nearly three centuries of Spanish rule, the first cry for independence was heard in Quito"

I find "the first cry for independence was heard" to be weasel wording. - MSTCrow 23:51, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

It's off the main page now so it is no longer protected. Feel free to change it at Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/August 10. --- RockMFR 02:05, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Weasel wording ? That was my (lame) attempt to "translate" El Primer Grito de Independencia, which is how the occasion is referred to locally. --PFHLai 03:41, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Passive voice does not necessarily imply weasel words. Weasel words have more to do with opinions than with historical facts, although I do understand your concern. Gracenotes^T § 03:55, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Surely someone called for Peruvian independence before then... -Elmer Clark 11:27, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

I hate to suggest something more weaselly, but how about something like: "Ecuadorians celebrate this day as the day when it is said that the first cry for independence from Spain was heard in Quito." I think that gets the meaning right, although with 3 or 4 layers of weaselness. Steve Dufour 02:14, 12 August 2007 (UTC)