Talk:Seal of the President of the United States

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[edit] Use of the seal in fiction?

Some information on the legal status of the seal appearing on-screen in movies and TV shows featuring fictional portrayals of the US president would be welcome. For example, The West Wing appeared to use the authentic seal on screen, while 24 used a fictional presidential seal so different from the real one it seemed like avoidance. SNL has used the seal before fake presidential speech skits. Does permission have to be obtained for fictional portrayals or parody impersonations? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.220.22.21 (talk) 16:05, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Legality of Selling items with seal

Could someone provide a reference to the statement about it being illegal to sell items with the seal on it? I'm just curious. Mattlary 18:41, May 20, 2005 (UTC)

It is part of U.S. law; 18 U.S.C § 713. Carl Lindberg (talk) 18:53, 26 January 2008 (UTC)


Question regarding The Presidential Seal: I have a section of an envelope with the Presidential Seal. I believe it was my late Uncle's but I don't know why he would have received a White House Document. He was in the Army, received a Purple Heart and other prestigious awards. Does anybody know how I could find out what he received from the White House? My Aunt did not keep the entire envelope, only the seal.

Thank you Jo-Anne Warner23:28, 18 June 2007 (UTC)67.72.98.91 23:28, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Changing direction?

The article currently states: "Many people the arrows in its left talon." Certainly; an episode of The West Wing, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs makes reference to the myth of the head turning. either it was intentional on the part of the wirters, or someone never told the writers the story is a myth

The presidential seal once did have the eagle's head facing to the left, at least between 1877 and 1945, see here. Also, it is possible that an early presidential seal was made which, while the eagle still faced its right, the arrows and olive branch switched legs. See here. Carl Lindberg (talk) 18:53, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] US Navy SEALs?

The world "seal" reminds me the United States Navy SEALs. Is there any connection between this two words? No, the SEALS you speak of ar an unrelated acronym.CApitol3 12:10, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Jonathan, 07/23/2007

[edit] Need for Symbolism Discussion

This article needs a section on the symbolism of the seal. For example, what are those several orbs above the eagle's head, and what do they stand for? And so on. --Skb8721 17:59, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

They are cloud puffs, I guess somewhat taken from the Great Seal. The current seal is defined by Executive Order 10823, which superseded earlier versions. See also here. Carl Lindberg (talk) 18:53, 26 January 2008 (UTC)