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It seems to me, from video footage that I've seen on the Web, that Qassams are really rockets and not mortar bombs - that is, they are powered by an ignited propellant out in the open as opposed to being propelled out of the barrel of a mortar by a gunpowder explosion that tries to go in every direction, but is confined by the mortar's barrel to only moving significantly in one direction - toward the open end of the barrel - thus, shooting out the mortar bomb.

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[edit] Relationship between Mayor Moyal and Mayor of Los Angeles

Any details on the flowering relationship between the Eli Moyal, the Mayor of Sderot and the Mayor of Los Angeles. They declared each other unofficial (it might even be official, in addition to or in place of Eilat) sister-cities during the bombing particularly in July 2006 and Mayor Villaraigosa declared it in a speech to some 10,000 people in Los Angeles in late July about his phone call being cut off by a Qassam. Valley2city 06:29, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proper references?

The article continually repeats the line "According to CBS", but there are no links or reference listings to support this. It would be helpful if someone could track down the link, or otherwise properly attribute the date in the article.Aervanath 15:25, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Najd, etc.

I don't want to get into a dispute about the former existence of a village called Najd, but want to make a couple fo points:

  • Palestineremembered is hardly an unbiased source, and having reviewed the site, I'm hard to think of it as particularly reliable
  • I think it would be misleading to characterize cities, towns, villages, etc., that existed before 1948 as "Palestinian," as everything in the area - whether predominantly Jewish, Arab, or other, was Palestinian. If the point is that a place used to be predominantly Arab, we should write "Arab" to avoid any confusion. --Leifern 16:28, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
  • This village was a Palestinian village prior to 1958, which the Zionist regime stole from them.


[edit] IDF operation in 2006

The page says: "In June 2006 the IDF occupied the Gaza Strip's border area and began a shelling campaign, which claimed the lives of not only the intended targets: two senior members of the Palestinian militia, the Popular Resistance Committees but also the lives of 177 Palestinian civilians" Can anyone confirm this information? The other wiki article about the 2006 conflict says that there were 402 casualties, 280 of them militants.

[edit] city under attack

Informally, I suggest removing the part of this section recording certain events or splitting into another article. Most of these dates are insignificant and detract from the article. --Shuki 19:01, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reliable sources

palestineremembered.com is a personal website, and a partisan, unreliable source. Please do not use it on Wikipedia. Jayjg (talk) 14:41, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

see [1]. I'll try to acquire some of the literature mentioned there, to improve the sourcing. As per who's partisan and who isn't, I notice that you don't seem to have objected to edits like this one: [2]. --Soman 14:49, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
I only noticed the article moments ago, haven't edited it before. I'm not sure why you're bringing up stuff from before I'd ever seen it. Regarding palestinerembered.com, despite the use of the royal "we" on that page, it's an anonymous personal website, no different than a million others from what I can see, and far more partisan than many. Please try to use reliable, scholarly sources. Jayjg (talk) 14:51, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

@Soman, as you labeled an edit by me (the one with the external link #2) derogatorily as "edits like this one", my I ask what's your objection? -- Túrelio 14:20, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Moyal's resignation

While I wouldn't normally find the resignation (sudden or not) of a mayor to be worth including in an encyclopedia, I think the fact that Eli specifically referenced the rocket attacks as his reason for quitting makes the event significant, so I've added it to the "city under attack" section (which, btw, I have also retitled "City under seige", simply because I adore alliteration. :D Eaglizard (talk) 19:47, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A Child's drawing used in the article

Under whas Wiki rules is a child's drawing used to justify this article as enclopedic? I strongly suggest the drawing be removed. Chaldean (talk) 05:55, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

What is your problem with that image? I suggest to read the description in Image:Sderotchilddrawing.jpg. -- Túrelio (talk) 19:27, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
How is it encyclopedic? Chaldean (talk) 06:02, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
I think that the drawing itself illustrates the trauma that the people of Sderot are going through. While the main ilages should be the standard scenery of the city, for now there is a lack of those pictures. --Shuki (talk) 18:06, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Call me crazy, but I'd prefer an actual picture of say a bombed house. Not a child's drawing. I have not seen this in any other Wiki page. Chaldean (talk) 07:27, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Shlama, is it really so hard to understand that this image expresses something different ("has another message") and far deeper than an image of a bombed house?
I have not seen this in any other Wiki page. If that had been taken as an argument by Jimbo, there would be no Wikipedia. Sorry, couldn't resist. As to my knowledge, fair use is legally valid only here on :en. Also, you are free to take the effort to obtain a comparable picture of a palestinian, assyrian, or african child for example about the life as a refugee and procure a fitting license/FU rationale. -- Túrelio (talk) 10:04, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
No, children's drawings aren't encyclopedic, this is an encyclopedia, not an art forum - look at the following links : [3] [4] . Photographs are much more important. thestick (talk) 19:19, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sderot in film

I think anyone following the situation in Sderot will be interested that a documentary filmaker with a proven track record and funding has a crew there making a movie. More than one publication found this interesting enough to run an article. I think the banner is unwarrented.Elan26 (talk) 18:34, 2 June 2008 (UTC)Elan26