Talk:Scouting in North Dakota

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[edit] Councils-by-state

Would Wikipedians entertain the idea of having the Councils-by-state sections recategorized to "Scouting in Arizona", "Scouting in Washington", and so on, rather than a list of every council and district? The reason I would like this considered is

1) no other country's Scouting articles are divided into such minute details (except for The Scout Association of Hong Kong, and really, is that much minutiae important or interesting to the reader?)

2) many councils that a reader may choose to look up, like the Fitchburg Area Council of Massachusetts or the Vigilante Area Council of Montana, went extinct 30+ years ago, yet may be of interest in a more state-based article

3) many states like Alaska share a communal Scout history, only fairly recently being broken into smaller councils, others like North Dakota had several merged into one, and some Scouting histories are better told encompassing an entire state. The fact that Scouts in California prior to the charter of the BSA were the youth arm of the California Highway Patrol, or the fact that Connecticut, while having only eight counties, has had 22 councils over the course of its history, would be well-included in a statewide article

Chris 01:33, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Historical council information to be folded in

  • North Dakota 428 Devils Lake 1922 1923 changed name to Lake Region District 428 1923
  • North Dakota 428 Lake Region District 1923 1925 ended 1925
  • North Dakota 431 Minot 1918 1922 changed name to Minot District 43 1 1922
  • North Dakota 430 Grand Forks 1922 1924 changed name to Grand Forks County 430 1924
  • North Dakota 429 Fargo 1920 1925 merged into Red River Valley 429 1925
  • North Dakota 432 Williston 1924 1925 ended 1925
  • North Dakota 430 Grand Forks County 1924 1926 changed name to Greater Grand Forks Area 430 1926
  • North Dakota 431 Minot District (Area) 1922 1929 changed name to Great Plains Area 43 1 1929
  • North Dakota 432 Bismarck Area 1927 1929 changed name to Missouri Valley 432 1929
  • Minnesota 294 Park Region Area 1923 1930 merged into Red River Valley 429 North Dakota 1930
  • North Dakota 430 Greater Grand Forks Area 1926 1931 changed name to Grand Forks Area 430 1931
  • North Dakota 430 Grand Forks Area 1931 1933 changed name to Lake Agassiz 430 1933
  • North Dakota 429 Red River Valley 1925 1974 merged into Northern Lights 429 1974
  • North Dakota 430 Lake Agassiz 1933 1974 merged into Northern Lights 429 1974
  • North Dakota 431 Great Plains Area 1929 1974 merged into Northern Lights 429 1974
  • North Dakota 432 Missouri Valley 1929 1974 merged into Northern Lights 429 1974
  • North Dakota 429 Northern Lights 1974

[edit] Merge of Pa-Hin Lodge

  • SupportRlevse 16:04, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Support per conventions. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 16:41, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Oppose per conventions. There appears to be only one lodge for th state. I say leave it be. --evrik (talk) 21:49, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
The conventions (current and proposed) both state to build from the top down. This is how we get into protracted AfDs based on notability. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 22:45, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
  • How does it handle when one lodge/council spans multiple states? The lodge has a significant portion in Minnesota.71.215.209.198 03:46, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
In Scouting by <state> articles, the main section is in the state where the council headquarters are located and there is a short section with a backlink in each state where the council crosses borders. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 08:48, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
  • There appears to be only one lodge in this state. I don't see a consensus here. --evrik (talk) 14:33, 29 October 2007 (UTC)