Talk:Scottish Church College, Calcutta

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The introduction of the article the oldest continuing Missionary administered liberal arts and sciences academy in India is very appropriate as:

1) Neither Presidency College, Kolkata nor the Oriental Seminary were Missionary administered institutions at any point of time.

2) Serampore College discontinued the study of liberal arts and sciences in 1883 till 1911.

3) Calcutta Madrassa, Asiatic Society and the Fort William College were not liberal arts and sciences colleges. Asiatic Society and Fort William College were more like research institutions on Oriental Studies and Calcutta Madrasa was dedicated for Islamic learning.

Perhaps the tag "Western style" could be added before "Missionary" and "undergraduate" before "liberal" therefore making it the oldest Western style continuing Missionary administered undergraduate liberal arts and sciences academy in India.

Thanks,

Byomkesh Bakshi 08:55, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree. Also Serampore College and Bishop's College were (and are) seminaries, or institutions primarily intended to train priests or scholars about Christianity. Their primary purpose is not imparting liberal arts and science education.

Regards,

Pradosh Mitter (talk) 08:30, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Just happened to pass along and saw this article.... seems to me that the oldest continuing Missionary administered liberal arts and sciences college in India is way too long. Why not shorten it to the oldest Christian liberal arts college in India? The meaning is not lost. Also this definition fits in well with the definition of an American liberal arts college. Although I don't know if that fits with the Indian definition ...

HisExcellencyThe HonourableViscountofAmherst (talk) 06:29, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Contents 1 WikiProject class rating 2 On the alumni of Scottish Church College 3 Some additional noted alumni of Scottish Church College 4 Response on alumni 5 Image copyright problem with Image:Bp in un.jpeg

[edit] WikiProject class rating

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[edit] On the alumni of Scottish Church College

(To user Badshah165) I appreciate your efforts to include the names of previously unknown alumni to the list, and your effort is indeed notable. However, as there are certain standards that are relevant for a wikipedia article, which you have somehow overlooked. The names of the people that you have mentioned are interesting information. However there is no direct proof (either through a referenced text or through a website) that they had ever attended Scottish Church College. Most of the references to the alumni mentioned on that article are referenced, either in the separate wikipedia articles on them or any referenced website, or book. Birendra Krishna Bhadra, Upala Sen and Mohanananda Brahmachari are no doubt great people, but you have provided no proof that they had ever attended Scottish Church College. The only statement that we have is yours -- an individual statement which is not referenced in any way. And as such the possibility of biased viewpoint cannot be ruled out. Thus without proper references, these names are in their current state, not proper to be included in the wikipedia article. It would be better still, if there were separate wikipedia articles on them, which could be later linked to the text.

Also I would also request you to refrain from including your name in the main article as there are many contributors, not one.

Pradosh Mitter (talk) 00:23, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Some additional noted alumni of Scottish Church College

• Sri Mohonananda Brahmachari.He was born at early morning of 17th December 1904. He was initiated in Brahmacharya by renowned Sadhu Sri Sri Balananda Brahmachariji Maharaj at Sri Sri Balananda Ashram, Deoghar, Bihar now Jharkhand. He passed away on 29th August 1999.He not only preached Sat Dharma but was also very very sympathetic to cause of poor and needy without any barrier of caste or religion. Many people from other religion viz. Sikhs, Muslims and Christians regularly visited Him to get His blessings.

• Partha Pratim Chowdhury,dramatist

• Keya Chakraborty,dramatist

• Sir Gurudas Bandopadhyay,renowned educational thinker of his time

• Kalidas Rai,Bengali poet

• Sisir Kumar Bhaduri,noted playwright

• Buddhadeb Dasgupta,acclaimed art film director

• Upala Sen,noted Rabindra sangeet exponent

Reference: 1)Scottish Church College Magazine(Year - 1999,2000 and 2001.Volume - 87,88 and 89). 2)Anananda Bazar Patrika - Sunday edition(Year - 2006). --Badshah165 (talk) 09:22, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

A short list of topics discussed about persons related to Scottish Church College in the college magazine:

1) Year 1999(Volume 87) - page 1: A very brief account of William Spence Urquhart mentioned.

2) Year 2000(Volume 88) - page 1: A very brief account of ex-students of Scottish Church College mentioned.

3) Year 2001(Volume 89) - page 42: Manoj Mitra, in an interview with him, mentions the names of Rudra Prasad Sengupta, Partho Pratim Chowdhury and Keya Chakraborty as the former students of the college.

--Badshah165 (talk) 06:39, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Response on alumni

Thank you for your response. I'll see if these names can be added with proper references to the texts that you mentioned.

Pradosh Mitter (talk) 03:33, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Bp in un.jpeg

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I don't see any reason why the photograph can not be used in this article since the main article on B.P.Koirala uses this photograph as well. This is being used for educational and non-profit related purposes only.

Pradosh Mitter (talk) 20:12, 22 May 2008 (UTC)