User talk:Schapel

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[edit] Wikipedia:Network interface device

I undid your reversions to my edits on this page, and added one citation that I added quickly. It's nto a very good one, but rather than undoing my edits again, you could look for a better citation yourself. Looping up an NI is a very basic part done by every telco\LEC that I know of, to require a citation on this fact is paramount to requiring a citation on statments saying it's owned by the Telco provider. If you require a citation on this, you would need to look at the operating procedures for said companies, however, these companies to not actualy post this information for the public to see. I tried googling PTA (Provider Test Access) but there's no real info on this that's easy to find this late at night. But in a nut shell, the LECs send a PTA with demarc information and testing results to the ordering company telling them of the results of the test to the loop on site, in otherwords, the loop at the smartjack itself. If you really do feel this needs a citation better then mine (It's not a good one, I'll admit that), please find it yourself rather than undoing mine, or leave the current one till I find a better one. There's no reason for the whole top half of the page to say citation needed. 63.87.129.138 (talk) 05:34, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

I understand this is laughably basic to someone who works with this equipment all the time, so you think it doesn't need a citation. I've been a programmer for 27 years, have worked with hardware to the extent of building my own microprocessor, have programmed embedded systems for network devices. But when I had to get a T1 connection for my business, when the AT&T technician came to enable the connection, he did work on our smartjack. I asked him what he was doing and he said he was hooking up the T1. Duh! I had to look high and low to discover that what he was working on is called a smartjack. Those of us who don't do this for a living know nothing about it. We need citations for everything, to be able to verify the information in the article. Please do not simply remove the templates asking for these citations. Instead, provide any citations you can. If no one can provide a citation, any material in Wikipedia may be removed if it is challenged. Read WP:V, WP:CITE, WP:NOR, and WP:RS for more information. Thanks. -- Schapel (talk) 13:59, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
I fail to see however why you decided to put citations needed in THOESE parts, but no other items. That infers you do not believe them. But yet all the other points about the NIU you believed right off the bat? This doesn't seem to fall under “All material that is challenged or likely to be challenged needs a source”. But that wasn't my point. My point was, rather than just challenging them, why don't you try to find some of the references yourself, since you're the one who doesn't have the knowledge in this area, it would be more helpful for all. A quick google search turned up this link that mentions NIUs being mounted outside:
http://books.google.com/books?id=ymTHgOiFRcEC&pg=PA461&lpg=PA461&dq=%22weatherproof+enclosure%22+NIU&source=web&ots=P5qH3em9ud&sig=Y_v3b9f3bBcdBGLwYhyYkEmEDf8
And here's another one, just not as good:
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:sPZV0Ko91qUJ:www.pge.com/docs/word_xls/suppliers_purchasing/customer_choice/esp_resource_center/esp_handbook/esp_handbook.doc+%22weatherproof+enclosure%22+NIU&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us
However, these are not very good resources,and because this isn't really that common of a thing for your average person to get into, google isn't really going to turn anything up. But they're better than nothing I guess. If you didn't notice, I'm not all that great at adding citations (I'm just a Delphi programmer, not a Wiki guy), so I'll just remove the citation needed part, and let you add the citation, ok? Now I'm going to go put some citation needed in the page about igloos where it says they're found in cold areas. I've never believed it personally. Oh, and the part where Santa Clause isn't real.  :D And yes, I am just messing with you, not insulting you, but really, you don't need citations on EVERYTHING, just the ones unbelievable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.87.129.138 (talk) 14:45, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Microsoft notice board

Are you interested? I hope to get info on Microsoft related topics up2date, accurate and presented neutrally. - Ta bu shi da yu 02:43, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Requesting comments on template alteration

Hello. I see you are using one or more of the User instruments templates in your Babel box. Inspired by some recent developments, I want to rework all the templates in there (including ones used on user pages), to make them more like the regular Babel templates. However, I thought I should hear from the people this would affect before actually doing it. Please weigh in at User:Ddawson/User instruments. Ddawson 10:23, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Firefox & Adblock

Hi there. You reverted an edit by me (no problem there) about adblock causing memory issues. I'll agree with the revert and leave it because this is actually a confusing situation being that there are 2 adblock extensions.

The first, adblock, has caused some problems. The adblock plus version also had issues but they were sorted out after I gave a detailed analysis of my problem to the developer. The largest issue can be with people upgrading from Firefox 1.0.x to 1.5 and not unloading extentions beforehand. But, the adblock plus programmer has fixed that in [version 5.11.1] and asked for people to test it. Shazam! The problems went away for me and others.

I'm mentioning this in case you are having memory issues with Firefox and Adblock. There isn't any way I can think of to add that information to the Firefox article without 1) taking up a lot of space and 2) it looking like a POV in favor of using that particular extention.

Thanks for your time and edits here. Take care, -- That Guy, From That Show! 04:31, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

I just wanted to list Adblock specifically, first, because many users aren't aware that's causing their memory problems, and second, because I explain the memory issue in the Adblock article, and I use that article as the source for the claim that some extensions are causing memory problems in the Firefox article. -- Schapel 02:38, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] D'oh

My bad. Thanks for correcting it. EVula 01:17, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fallacy of Many Questions

I addressed this issue on the talk page, as well as in my expanded version of that paragraph.

Although "are you still" may be more correctly phrased than "have you stopped", "have you stopped" is in fact the standard phrasing. Google reveals endless variations on "have you stopped beating":

"Have you stopped beating your children?" "Have you stopped beating your customers?" "Have you stopped beating your dog?" "Have you stopped beating the economy, Mr Greenspan?"

Furthermore, of course it doesn't make strict logical sense. That's because it is, as the article indicates, a fallacy.

If you still disagree , please explain your reasons on the talk page before reverting again. DS 15:21, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Can I ask what precisely you perceived as having been "original research"? The lengthy explanation, I added so as to accomodate the complaint on the talk page that it's "not logical". DS 21:22, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Firefox "Broken Calendar" comment

I'm sorry, that was brilliant. Wikipedia is such a better place when there are people about to make you laugh. :) --T. Moitie 11:20, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Injection.svg and others

Hi, would you mind uploading the graphics to Commons:, in order to make them available to other Wikipedia sections. TIA, Goldie (tell me) 13:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Browser stats

Could you explain why W3school usage data is not representative of overall usage? What's a good place to get representative usage data on browsers & OS? Thanks, Jasu 08:20, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

It's data for only their own site, which attracts mainly web developers. You can read the usage share article for more information than you could ever want on browser stats. -- Schapel 12:11, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
So why is W3Schools' dta now on this page, listed as "Global Usage Share Data"? It's not, it's usage share data from their site only, which they admit is highly skewed. Let's just remove it before even more people think it's actually representative of global usage share. -- Schapel 12:15, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Browser Stats

Great work with this page. Just thought I'd let you know it's very much appreciated. Nach0king 21:51, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Due to violation of the three revert rule, you have been temporarily blocked from editing Wikipedia. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future. — FireFox (talk) 16:59, 24 October 2006

[edit] User:41.243.17.117 sockpuppetry

You suspect User:41.243.17.117 of being a sockpuppet of User:JohnLattier. I happen to disagree:

  • 41 claims to have been banned, and you read that as him admitting to being JohnLattier evading a ban. But JohnLattier never was banned.
  • While JohnLattier and the anon troll whose incarnations seem to include User:198.54.202.254 (who has been banned) and 41 edit the same talk page and have similar points of view, JohnLattier to my knowledge never has been incivil to his opponents.

If you agree with my reasoning, you might want to remove the sockpuppetry accusation, which I consider unfair to JohnLattier. Yours, Huon 18:51, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree. 41 and 198 are (is) abusive and from a South African address. JohnLattier, 68.158.245.160, and 68.211.104.154 are (is) from BellSouth. I'm thinking that these are two people with five aliases, not one person with one footprint in the U.S. and another in South Africa. Calbaer 20:18, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bijection Composition

The image representing the composition of bijections that you created (Bijective_composition.svg) is incorrect. The function from X to Y is not a bijection because it does not span Y, and the function from Y to Z is not a bijection because it is not one-to-one. I would sort this out myself but I dont know what program you used to create them and I dont want to change the general theme from the other images relating to bijections, surjections and injections. Please sort this out if you get a chance. --Nappyrash 01:41, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I did some research to see if you're correct. I couldn't find anywhere that said a "bijective composition" is a composition of two bijective functions. I suppose we could change the caption to read something like "a bijective function composed of an injective and a surjective function," which is what the image is demonstrating. -- Schapel 01:54, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Yep you're right. --Nappyrash 05:12, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Three-revert rule

I know this rule, but thanks for reminding.

The problem is my discussions with you are usually fruitless and lead to nowhere, so I wanted to try another approach. But I guess I have to discuss anyway... 193.219.28.146 23:05, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picsearch

Schapel, could you please have a look at Picsearch and tell me what you think of the tags at the top? --Ceas webmaster 16:40, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

See my response in the talk page. -- Schapel 01:18, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
I understand NPOV. Please see my response. --Carl Sarnstrand 06:57, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Duplicate sentence

Thanks! It's not clear from the diffs that it's a duplicate :) Raul654 16:23, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] MOSIX‎

Well, the result (so to speak) of your request for editor assistance was that adding that paragraph about OpenMOSIX is indeed a valuable contribution of yours. It's in the article right now, so there's no need to turn up the heat. Iff and when someone roundly removes the section again, we will see what further steps are appropriate. |dorftrottel |talk 20:29, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

As I said, I'm not trying to turn up the heat. I'm trying to cool things down before they get out of control. Please let me explain my side of the story when someone misrepresents my actions. Thanks. -- Schapel (talk) 12:07, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Words like "misrepresented the truth" or "disruptive editor" basically never serve to cool anything down and should be used very carefully, if ever. There is no use in stating things like that, even if it's true, especially now that the article features that paragraph. |dorftrottel |talk 12:37, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Blogs

How do you define 'blog' and where do you find that rule on WP ? Most of reliable sources use bloging as their primary way of communication, now. Do you mean the author should be identified ? --Fenring 00:38, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

The vast majority of 'blogs' are where a non-notable individual or group of them post their own personal thoughts and opinions on a wide variety of topics, including those on which they have no particular expertise. These are not reliable sources by Wikipedia's definition, because they are non-notable authors and there is no editorial oversight. If it's truly a legitimate claim that Opera is more secure than Firefox, we could find at least one source that is from a noted and reliable source of information, such as a major computer magazine or security researcher. If Wikipedia allowed any old blog where the author could be identified as a reliable source, anyone could put any information in any article simply by posting the information to a blog and then citing that blog as a source. -- Schapel 12:29, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Mozilla Digital Memory Bank

Dear Schapel,

I am a graduate research assistant at the Center for History and New Media at George Mason University. In recent years we have produced a number of online archives such as The September 11 Digital Archive (http://911digitalarchive.org/) and the Hurricane Digital Memory Bank (http://www.hurricanearchive.org/). Our team is currently gathering digital documents related to Mozilla products for the Mozilla Digital Memory Bank (http://mozillamemory.org), and we are in the process of interviewing some of the lead members, former and present, of the Mozilla community.

I recently found your Mozilla/Firefox-related contributions located at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mozilla_Firefox. Given your involvement with Mozilla, we think your voice would be an excellent addition to the archive. If you are interested in having your perspectives added to the record, we can conduct the interview via Skype, instant messenger, or email—whichever method might fit your schedule and preferences best.

I have included below the first three questions of the interview in order to give you a sense of the process. For examples of completed interviews, please feel free to examine the interviews section (http://mozillamemory.org/browse.php?cat=interview) of our archive.

If you are interested in contributing your perspectives on the Mozilla community and its products, you can reach me by e-mail at gcheong@gmu.edu. Please do not hesitate to contact me should you have any questions regarding the interview process or the Mozilla Digital Memory Bank.

Thank you for your time and attention.

Best regards,

Giny Cheong
Gcheong (talk) 23:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Graduate Research Assistant
Center for History and New Media (http://chnm.gmu.edu)
Department of History and Art History
George Mason University
4400 University Drive, MSN 1E7
Fairfax, VA 22030-4444


Interview Questions

When did you begin using computers? How did you get interested in computers?

What is your education background? Have you had formal computer training?

What’s the first programming project you remember working on?

[edit] Rollback

I looked at your contributions and I believe that when you have reverted edits, you have done so appropriately. So, I have added rollback rights to your account. Please note that rollback should be used only for blatant vandalism and does not leave a useful edit summary. I hope you find it useful, but if not, just ask and I will remove it. —Remember the dot (talk) 22:22, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for keeping Acid3 sane

The last few days I have been away from WP, just after I added Opera hits 98 and a few hours before Opera hit 100. I have traced the article history now and seen the loads of misinformation and worthless additions that were made by mostly anonymous editors. Thanks for keeping the article free from most of that crap!--itpastorn (talk) 10:15, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. It's what I end up doing most on Wikipedia. -- Schapel (talk) 11:46, 28 March 2008 (UTC)