Template talk:Schoolblock

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Template:Schoolblock is permanently protected from editing, as it is a heavily used or visible template.

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[edit] Account Creation

Shouldn't instead of just saying, "To prevent abuse, account creation via this IP address is probably also disabled.", a parameter is added to say yes account creation from this IP is disabled, or no account creation from this IP is not disabled, then if it is then say, "To prevent abuse, account creation via this IP address is also disabled.", otherwise make no mention of the subject. You can also only show the "from home" where its talking about account creation if account creation is blocked from this IP. This is all of course assuming this is technically possible woth existing wiki-markup.--Ryan (talk) 21:05, 21 September 2007 (UTC) It may be best to run an invite system for account creation from these areas, where accounts are created with a certain password and only allowed if everyone using that password is not banned. This allows for situations where there is a limited number of trustworthy people using a connection, although there are issues137.44.1.200 17:39, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] At home

Some young editors I worked with some time ago were at a residential institution, others will not have internet at home, if indeed they have a home! "Elsewhere" is a bit vague, but might be better. Rich Farmbrough, 15:36 18 December 2006 (GMT).

Besides "At Home" is too imperative I think, sometime like "elsewhere" I think will be better.--Ryan (talk) 21:32, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Color

Can we change the color? This is my suggestion. --HIZKIAH (User • Talk) 20:42, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

We can't do anything to the template, only admins can...lol...but what color were you thinking of?--Ryan (talk) 21:35, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Please post your design ideas in Template talk:Schoolblock/Temp. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 21:08, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] XHTML

Please change "<br>" to "<br />" in the template. This will make the template XHTML compliant. —Remember the dot (t) 22:57, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Done, I think. Let me know if anything else needs fiddling. Luna Santin 23:15, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
I think that's all. Thanks! —Remember the dot (t) 20:17, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Some notes

Perhaps this template should mention the action that may be taken at abuse reports in cases of persistent IP vandalism.

Also, as a matter of general interest, email headers can easily be forged and shouldn't be used for serious authentication. Feezo (Talk) 13:17, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

They can only be forged if you run your own SMTP server, or have access to an open relay/compromised zombie -- a skill beyond the knowledge of the typical primary/secondary student vandal. --  Netsnipe  ►  13:36, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Use of this template

When I have to block a school IP, I usually soft block it for three hours. I like how this template explains how to register for an account, but the way it's phrased it looks like it's most appropriate for long-term use at the top of a talk page. I feel like if I were to use this template I'd have to come back three hours later, when it's expired, and remove it, because it would look very strange on an unblocked IP. How do others use this template? TomTheHand 17:00, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I have a similar question: What do we do when the school block has apparently expired? For example, I just put a warning on 199.185.87.122, but I put it just below the school block message, which now looks like it no longer applies. Can I just delete the old school block or do I reword it? Rickterp 23:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to suggest having this template take a "time" argument. By default, with no time specified, it would appear as it does now, but if a time is specified, "is currently disabled" will be replaced by "has been disabled for {{{time}}}". Perhaps other tweaks might be necessary to really make it sound right. Ideas? TomTheHand 12:12, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I suggest that you don't use this template on an IP's talk page unless the block is long term (6 months/indefinite). It was originally designed for use as a block reason. --  Netsnipe  ►  08:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Slight rewording requested

{{editprotected}} Despite the way it probably should be used, I have found that there are many many IP talk pages with expired blocks that contain this template. I recommend a simple change in the text "editing by anonymous users ... is currently disabled" to read "... may be currently disabled" to account for this. Otherwise, we will continue to have messages that are technically inaccurate. It's not a big deal, but probably worth the minor rewording. Deli nk 18:57, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Done. Cheers. --MZMcBride 20:12, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

{{editprotected}} There's a better solution than that. What about {{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACE}}|User talk|may be|is}}? When this template is used in a block reason, "may be" sounds a little awkward, and it's not used anywhere but on user talk pages and in block reasons anyway. Melsaran (talk) 19:17, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Done. Cheers. --MZMcBride 02:27, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Typo

{{editprotected}} Typo in final sentence - should be "is" not "it". Bencherlite 09:31, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Y Done — Carl (CBM · talk) 14:36, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Another typo: the phrase "its preferable" should be "it's preferable", or better yet, "it is preferable". In fact, avoiding contractions in text is usually a good idea, especially given that so many folks have trouble with this basic distinction. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 01:21, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Since that typo was in the transcluded documentation, it is not protected and any user can edit it. I have done so. Cheers, Storkk (talk) 17:36, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] rewording request

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I suspect that timid students may unwittingly be put off from encyclopedia use by this 'group punishment' aimed at the vandal(s). This risk could be mitigated somewhat by the addition of a sentence similar to: "You continue to have full access to read the encyclopedia." SaltyBoatr 15:19, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Done. Cheers. --MZMcBride 01:31, 18 October 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Special:Listusers

See post at Wikipedia talk:Username policy#Special:ListusersJeepday (talk) 14:39, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I noticed on this User talk:209.105.213.101 the template {{Schoolblock}} whcih includes a link to Special:Listusers all of which is great. But when you open the list of user names the are almost exclusively deleted vandal only accounts or offensive ones like User:(2) Heil Hitler, motherfucker!. While I can see where directing school children to a list of user names that have been taken could be helpful could we find a way to provide the list of active accounts? {{Schoolblock}} is used on school IP's that have been blocked for vandalism, directing to a list user names created mostly to vandalize Wikipedia may not be the best choice. Jeepday (talk) 14:36, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I noticed looking over Wikipedia:Request an account that a lot of people requesting an account don't bother checking the list, so they probably should be directed there. We can't delete usernames, even blocked ones. The right way to use the Listusers page is to enter the name you're interested in in the search box; the bad names only appear if you start surfing through. There are some offensive names on the first page, though: what do people think about linking like this, which puts a 20-name limit on the page? Then the first page doesn't include any offensive names. Mangojuicetalk 16:25, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
If we can't limit the search to active names I think that is a workable solution. Jeepday (talk) 00:55, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

{{editprotected}} Can we convert this link into something like this? Alexius08 is welcome to talk about his contributions. 04:44, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

There's no way to do it while keeping a limit. The Special:ListUsers&limit=20 is part of the URL, and Special:ListUsers&limit=20 as an internal link will bring up an error. Could you be more specific about what you want changed? Did you want to keep the limit? Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk) 08:07, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
What about something like this instead? Alexius08 is welcome to talk about his contributions. 23:13, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Done. --- RockMFR 03:45, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] SVG

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There is an SVG version of the chalkboard image available, at Image:Nuvola apps edu miscellaneous.svg. The template could just be changed to use the SVG rather than PNG. Soxred93 | talk bot 06:56, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Y Done Happy‑melon 14:15, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "with reference to this IP address" add actual IP

{{editprotected}} Please change the bracket

(with reference to this IP address)

to

(with reference to the following IP address: <tt>{{PAGENAME}}</tt>)

which is then automatically changed to

(with reference to the following IP address: 66.66.66.66)

whereas 66.66.66.66 is the relevant IP adress. --Church of emacs (Talk | Stalk) 00:14, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Y Done --CapitalR (talk) 23:23, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
If someone who is {{schoolblock}}ed wants to edit a page, due to this change the name of the page he wants to edit is shown as his IP address (VPT report). As this causes more confusion instead of avoiding it, I've reverted this change. --Oxymoron83 12:24, 23 May 2008 (UTC)