Talk:Sanctuary of Our Lady of Lourdes
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[edit] Veracity of visions
In an encyclopaedia such as Wikipedia it is reasonable to view claims of apparitions of devotional figures (such as Our Lady of Lourdes) with detachment. However, I believe it is not necessary to continually labour this point. For example, in the article as it currently stands, I think it is quite reasonable to have: " Bernadette Soubirous claimed to have experienced a series of apparitions of a girl dressed in white", but I don't believe it is necessary to put quotation marks around further descriptions of the apparition, such as: "The figure always 'appeared' in one place".
The entire Sanctuary has been constructed with the view that the apparitions did occur and were miraculous and genuine. This article is a description of the Sanctuary, and not a debate about the veracity of the apparitions. For further discussion, see Talk:Our Lady of Lourdes or Talk:Bernadette Soubirous.Preacherdoc 20:18, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Alterations to the Grotto
I am quite interested in what alterations have been made to the rock of the Grotto itself. Within the last two years more of the rock has been carved away (in association with removal of the old drinking taps) to improve access to the left hand side of the Grotto; and in the Grotto itself, the marks of power tools on the inner walls are quite apparent. How old these marks are, and what was there before they were made, is not clear.Preacherdoc 20:18, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Scepticism and Criticism
This text was lifted in entirety from the Wiki article about Lourdes the town. As it stands all of it was written by me. There has been significant criticism of the text which is readable on the Talk:Lourdes page.
I am at a loss to explain the resurgence of this paragraph: "Critic of faith healing, such as James Randi's book The Faith Healers, criticized Father Ralph DiOrio, who was a Vatican-approved healer at Lourdes in the 1980s. DiOrio, influenced by Kathryn Kuhlman, claims he can cure such things as arthritis, but has never supplied any subjects to give to proof to this."
This paragraph is highly doubtful, and I have toned it down here (as before). For reasons why it is likely to be nonsense, see Talk:Lourdes.Preacherdoc 20:18, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
I am putting the note about the domain being free of stalls & hawkers...I think it is highly significant & adds balance to the lines about the "neon-emblazoned gift shops overflowing with tacky souvenirs". Having been to both Lourdes and Guadalupe I think the way the domain is kept uncommericial is definitely worth noting. RoyalBlueStuey 09:10, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Similarity of Origin
This is a very interesting paragraph. Unfortunately it is slightly inflated in its tone, so I have toned it down. As mentioned in the Our Lady of Lourdes article, apparitions and similar events often have parallels with each other. Preacherdoc 20:18, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
