Talk:San Carlos de Bariloche
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I'm sorry, but that pic is not from Bariloche. Trust me, I live there —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.47.63.6 (talk • contribs)
- It's funny then that you made the comment from El Calafate (your IP can be traced...)
- The picture might not be the centro civico, but it is definitelly Bariloche. I recognize the Cerebro discotteque, as well as a number of hotels for egresados. Mariano(t/c) 10:03, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
--- Hey, English speaking barilocheños... mark here.. (Km 5) 1534-1876 zeronemcs@hotmail.com oh, about the accuracy of the IP tracking systems.. those arent very accurate most of the times. specially with Telefonica's DSL IPs being 96% of the bariloche IPs.. most of the times I run a reverse DNS on my own IP i get all sorts of weird returns, from BA to Neuquen, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.49.14.9 (talk) 00:37, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Carlos Wiederhold
The little story about somebody addressing a letter to Don Carlos Wiederhold spelling San Carlos Wiederhold becoming the cause for the town to be officially called San Carlos (and not Don Carlos?) sounds disingenious and is almost certainly false. Wiederhold was a more interesting and remarkable character than one that came just and only to set up a small shop. Born in Osorno, Chile, he became an architect in Germany. Back in Chile, he took the trail of the staff that was working on establishing the Chile-Argentina border according to the 1883 agreement between the two countries. As an educated man with an entrepreneurial vision, Wiederhold realized that the extended Nahuel Huapi region was enclaved because there were no roads, no railway and no port facility on the Atlantic coast. Wiederhold conceived the project of desenclaving the region via the Pacific. To this end he established his main shop in Puerto Montt and a trading corporation, the Chile-Argentina, in association with German capitals. He then put steamships on both the Todos los Santos lake in Chile and the Nahuel Huapi in Argentina. The first steamship that navigated the Nahuel Huapi, the 80-ton "Condor", was constructed in Valdivia, Chile; shipped to Puerto Montt; carted to Puerto Varas; shipped over lake Llanquihue to Ensenada; carted to Petrohue on the Todos los Santos; shipped over the Todos los Santos to Peulla; transported with ox-pulled sleds over the Raulies pass; assembled at the western end of the Nahuel Huapi and put into service to boost economic development of the Nahuel Huapi region. At his Bariloche station, Wiederhold established a purchasing power for the products of the extended Nahuel Huapi region: wool and skins. These he had transported to Puerto Montt where the wares were loaded on oceanic steamers headed to German ports. On return, Wiederhold supplied consumption and capital goods to Bariloche and the extended region. The Chile-Argentina did very well until two events came together: oceanic navigation was perturbed by WWI, and a railway linking Bariloche to Atlantic ports and Buenos Aires was established. The Chile-Argentina was liquidated in 1917. The "Condor" became the property of a friend of Don Carlos - that was Don Primo Capraro. The point is that Carlos Wiederhold was an example of visionary entrepreneurship and strong, steady energy. The Chile-Argentina corporation did exactly that: serving both Chile and Argentina with brain and energy. Why should Wikipedia users be deprived of these historic facts, which are known to old stock Barilocheans? There is an enormous potential for cooperation between the Rio Negro Province and Chile's 10th Region but to realize it requires to do as Don Carlos did: go, see, conceive, and realize.
--Lupo Manaro 18:40, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] External link
--- I´m trying to add an external link of the official website of Bariloche, but i keep receiving warnings saying that my contribution is spam and I wont be able to edit pages anymore if I keep adding it. I believe it is important to publish the official website link of such an important City in Patagonia. There are several external links in San Carlos de Bariloche´s pàge and none of them is official. I´d really appreciate if you allowed me to publish the link again.
Thanks (Email Removed)
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Xeleste (talk • contribs) 17:31, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- I added your link, I didn't realize it was the city's official site. Is http://www.bariloche.com.ar/ not an official site as well? It comes off like it to me, though my Spanish is extremely limited. Who operates it, if not the city? Carl.bunderson (talk) 22:11, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for adding the site. www.bariloche.com.ar is a private website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xeleste (talk • contribs) 12:14, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
- No problem. Sorry I didn't realize it wasn't official. And I'll remove the other site, to discourage other unofficial sites from popping up. Carl.bunderson (talk) 04:58, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
