Talk:Samantabhadra

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Say, when Samantabhadra is described as "Lord of the Law", what sense of "law" is this? The possibilities that I can think of are dharma (often rendered as law in East Asian translations) or the vinaya. I'd like to make this more clear in the article. - Nat Krause 05:46, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)

DDB* refers to 理, which is actually different from both vinaya (律) and dharma (法). Jpatokal 09:27, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)
* http://www.acmuller.net/cgi-bin/xpr-ddb.pl?66.xml+id('b666e-8ce2')

I'm not to sure about the structure of this article. Since the most common perception (that I come across) seems to be that the bodhisattva samantabhadra and the buddha samanthabadra are different enteties, would it not be better to start out with two sections. One for the buddha and one for the bodhisattva. Then, after that one may include a discussion on whether they are in fact one and the same but with different conotations in different cultural context.--Mindzpore 13:58, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

It is mentioned in the article that Samantabhadra is so regarded in esoteric traditions. The majority of Buddhists either regard S. as a disciple of Buddha (SE Asia's Theravada) or a bodhisattva (Chinese, Korean and Japanese Mahayana), the esoteric traditions (Tibetan, Mongolian and Japanese Vajrayana, Shingon) being much smaller numerically. --Fire Star 火星 14:30, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Distinguishing the Dharmakaya Buddha and the Bodhisattva

There should be either separate sections or pages for these two Samantabhadras. The current page makes it look as if the Bodhisattva Samantabhadra doesn't exist in Vajrayana. This is not so. The two deities are acknowledged in Vajrayana as well. Jmlee369 09:03, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The article is very confusing

It confuses Buddha Samantabhadra with Bodhisattva Samantabhadra. Both exist in Vajrayana but are very different. Other points to note:

  • "certain Tantric Buddhist sects (namely, the Kunjed Gyalpo Tantra, rÑiŋ-ma and Bön)" - makes no sense - for one, Kunjed Gyalpo Tantra is a tantra belonging to Dzogchen series of teaching found in Ningmapa, together with dozens of other tantras where Samatabhadra is considered the main figure;
  • "Among those esoteric traditions that treat Samantabhadra as the Primordial Buddha, he is always represented naked, with a dark blue body, in union with his consort Samantabhadri." - the last part is of course not true - there are plenty of single Samantabhadra images —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.76.37.180 (talk) 14:22, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
I'd recommend that you be bold and change it. If you can source what you are saying, why not go for it? Best of luck. --Bradeos Graphon Βραδέως Γράφων (talk) 22:27, 27 February 2008 (UTC)