Talk:Sam Peckinpah
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Sam Peckinpah was a good article nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. Reviewed version: April 24, 2008 |
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[edit] "Ride The High Country" plot
The article wrongly describes the final shootout as follows: "Judd and Westrum stand up to a group of youthful thieves intent on stealing the gold..." But the duo actually have a shootout with a father and his two sons. It so happens one of the sons has a claim on a girl as being his legal wife who deserted him. She takes protection under the two heroes and actually takes a romantic interest in their young sidekick. They refuse to hand her back to her husband and the family ambushes them. The shootout is not about the gold. Therefore, we either provide more details on the plot or we remove completely the (inaccurate) detail about the "thieves intent on stealing the gold". The Gnome 23:26, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Re: Wild Bunch Rating
The rating of the Wild Bunch upon re-release is a well documented fact. Paul Seydor, David Weddle mention this. Roger Ebert is an easy "on-line" source who notes this fact.
When this happened, it garnered mention from everyone from Entertainment Tonight to legit sources...
Google, LexisNexis, JSTOR... seek... 205.244.12.166 07:05, 18 June 2007 (UTC)dude who wrote the Dillenger stub
[edit] Cleanup Tag?
I would like to propose that the Cleanup Tag on this article be removed. In my opinion this article appears to be balanced and reasonably well-written. --Zenexp 00:46, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
- I don't think the article is balanced. "There can be no doubt that Peckinpah singlehandedly created the modern action genre"? or "Fans consider "Bring me the Head of Alfredo Garcia as the last true Peckinpah movie?" -Josh
- Here's why the article crosses the border into POV-land, many times over. Because the text contains remarks such as this : "...he used the telephoto lens to great effect, and was a pioneer in the use of flash cuts, and the intercutting of normal, slow and very slow motion shots during action scenes - a style which has been much imitated, but rarely equalled, ever since, by directors such as Walter Hill, John Woo, and others." The Gnome 23:15, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Ancestry
It is often noted that he had some degree of American Indian ancestry, since he made westerns. Care to redact this? -- Error
Yes--or rather his sister cares to refute it. She specifically denies the rumor in a bonus interview on the Ride the High Country DVD.
I'll make a note in the article. Ellsworth 19:45, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Marine Corps
It says he joined the Marines in 1943, and that he saw acts of war between Chinese and Japanese soldiers to include torture, and they were not allowed to intervene. But since the end of 1941, the US was in a state of war with Japan. I doubt that a) if his unit witnessed such things, they would have been forbidden to intervene b) that the Japanese would have been oblivious to US Marines witnessing their activities - if they had noticed US Marines in the area, they would have engaged them. Something about this sounds like fantasy. Nobunaga24 02:35, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
- If They Move... Kill 'Em, David Weddle's Peckinpah biography, mentions public torture and executions between the Nationalists and communists in China while he was there, maybe that's what it was referring to. Mark Grant 01:32, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
- That would seem to make much more sense. If that's correct, it should be changed.--Nobunaga24 02:19, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Wild Bunch Rating
Where does the info come from that The Wild Bunch was rated NC-17 on it's 25th Anniversary (which would be about 1994). According to the MPAA website's ratings database, the only rating it has ever had is R.Largo1965 14:48, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Ride the High County Poster.gif
Image:Ride the High County Poster.gif is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:24, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:268396.1020.A.jpg
Image:268396.1020.A.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:31, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Failing GA
I'm failing this nomination for reasons that I've noted on the article itself: there are at least two long unreferenced sections, plus another that is essentially trivia. I would have given the article more of a chance, and provided longer and more involved feedback, but I have just noticed that this is a "drive-by" nomination by an editor who has not so far contributed to the article. As such, I doubt that it is likely to be improved significantly in response to my (or anybody else's) comments. --jbmurray (talk|contribs) 19:47, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Cross Iron.jpg
The image Image:Cross Iron.jpg is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here. In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Please check
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