Talk:Saint John's Arms

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[edit] Oldest Saint John's Arms?

Is the symbol on 1000 years old wooden ski foun from Finland the oldest Stain John's Arms symbol known? By the way Finland was not yet fully christianised that time so it was propably a pagan symbol. 193.65.112.51 14:36, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move to simply "⌘"

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was no consensus to move the page from Saint John's Arms to the symbol, per the discussion below, without bias against any new request based on evidence obtained from further research. Dekimasuよ! 02:15, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

This is simply a Christianized name for the symbol, it has much more history and numerous other names. I think the choice of this name is very arbitrary and misleading. The German Wikipedia also simply uses the symbol. It is, after all, a character. :bloodofox: 04:22, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

That displays as an empty square glyph on my computer... AnonMoos 09:39, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Do you have any Unicode fonts installed? :bloodofox: 16:59, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I have little difficulty with displaying Cyrillic, Greek, Hebrew, or Arabic, and even have a special font "Lucida Sans Unicode", but this character doesn't seem to display. However, my operating system is not up to date... AnonMoos 22:36, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose use ⌘ as a redirect instead. It's impossible to type, isn't ASCII and isn't English. Perhaps you can choose a different name for the article, if you don't like the current title. 132.205.99.122 20:56, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Oppose This displays as a question mark on my computer -- please choose any of its "numerous other names". Ewlyahoocom 06:54, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Oppose, we should not require our readers to have up-to-date OSs. Many won't. A description of the symbol, and an image at the top of the article, would be a service to WP. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 17:52, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
- Done. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 17:54, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, in a perfect well we'd all have unicode fonts installed but I understand that we don't. So, maybe I can dig up a more appropriate or older name for the symbol. :} :bloodofox: 03:12, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Any proposed title should reflect the most common English usage, so I'm not sure an older one would be inherently more appropriate than the current name. What's the literal translation of the Finnish? Is that ever used in English? Dekimasuよ! 09:45, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.