Talk:Ry Cooder

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All great except, that I beleive "Crossroads" to be the most famous film Ry Cooder took participation in.

Contents 1 The Rolling Stones 2 A Meeting By The River 3 Racism 4 Keith Richards 5 Crossroads 6 Southern Comfort 7 Didn't Cooder also do:

[edit] The Rolling Stones

Ry played on, at least, Beggar's Banquet, Let It Bleed, and Sticky Fingers. He turned down an offer to join the "Greatest Rock and Roll Band on Earth." That might deserve a mention here, no?

I agree. I added the reference to Sister Morphine eschewing a larger edit as it was my first one! How about changing:

"In the 60's, having been brought in to the Sticky Fingers sessions to play the haunting slide guitar on Sister Morphine, Cooder notably taught Keith Richards how to play in the "Open-G" tuning; Richards having used the tuning ever since, including on many of the Stones' greatest songs."

to

"Ry Cooder was a guest session guitarist on several Rolling Stones albums in the 60's; including Beggar's Banquet, Let It Bleed and (most notably) contributing the haunting slide guitar solo to Sister Morphine on Sticky Fingers. He even turned down an offer to join the Rolling Stones at one point. Cooder notably taught Keith Richards how to play in the "Open-G" tuning; Richards having used the tuning ever since, including on many of the Stones' greatest songs."

So I did...

[edit] A Meeting By The River

allmusic.com has the release year as 1993, with September 1992 as the recording time. I've therefore changed the year to 1993. SeL 13:05, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Racism

I think that ry cooder is racist because of the term chinito chinito. This is used by many hispanics to insult asians.[The above is not mine. Why is it unsigned. I don't agree, but what was the reference? DrBlues (talk) 02:17, 19 May 2008 (UTC)]DrBlues (talk) 02:18, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Keith Richards

It would be good to see the whole of what Cooder said about Keith Richards. One thing is certain: Richards already knew the open G tuning Cooder was using for slide. Cooder spurred Richards to go at it again,(and Richards has admitted Cooder's influence - he has though always denied that he first learned it from Cooder, citing Bukka White instead as the one who showed it to Richards). Richards had already been using open E on "Jumpin' Jack Flash" and "Street Fighting Man" and his use of open G continued in the same vein. Richards innovation was to use open tunings for rythym guitar, taking his cue from Don Everly who had long played open tunings rhytym guitar. As to who came up with the "Honky Tonk Women" intro, that's also murky. Relaying vague rumours won't do: Cooders charges have been contended, and for an encyclopedia entry, those contentions need to be acknowledged, and the sources cited. Also, when did Cooder play with The Stones - was in 68 and 69 or only 69? - Mr Anonyomous

More on Cooder

The following was deleted "Keith Richards has stated in interviews that he took the intro riff to Honky Tonk Women from Cooder, and also plainly stated that he learned all that he could from Cooder."

This needs citation; I'm not aware of single interview where Keith has said this.

As to "Downtown Suzy" being the first time "the open g" tuning was employed, besides needing citation, what it meant by "the open-G tuning"? Keith uses a 5 string open tuning: has Cooder ever played a 5 Sting open-G? Also, yes Keith did say he took all could from Ry Cooder. Keith was obviously in a joking mood while acknowlging his musical debt to Cooder. Likewise he took all he could from Gram Parsons, Chuck Berry, Muddy Waters, Robert Johnson, etc ... The context is lost and it is unfairly makes it seem as though Keith is admitting to plagerism. Exaclty what Keith learned from Cooder in the deleted text is either false, unsupported, or unspecified. - Mr Anonymous

[edit] Crossroads

The comment "Cooder also stepped in for the recording of the slide guitar parts in the 1986 film Crossroads" seems to downplay Cooder's involvement in this soundtrack; that he produced and wrote/co-wrote 5 tracks as well as the slide guitar work with Vai in the duel. Peter Ritchie 15:52, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

• In the sleeve notes to his compilation "The Elusive Light And Sound Vol. 1", Steve Vai states that he performed all the guitar parts except the slide, which was Cooder, and both parts of the last movement (i.e. Vai beats himself at the end). I agree though, Cooder was responsible for the whole score. And the soundtrack does contain the best version of "Crossroad blues" I have ever heard :) Wiki-is-truth 00:38, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Wish he'd kept his slide guitar out of "Buena Vista" he really spoils it there and these lovely old musicians revere him while he ruins their sound..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.189.183.126 (talk) 17:26, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Southern Comfort

Does anyone know why this soundtrack was never released in complete form? The movie credits stated it was "available", but I have never seen a copy (and I have looked for years). Stephenjh 21:31, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Didn't Cooder also do:

The sound track to the film, Blue Collar? He played git on several of the tracks and kidnapped Don Van Vliet [AKA Cpt Beefheart] to sing on the title track, Hard Workin' Man. Serves that maniac [Beefheart] right. I saw him with Zappa in San Jose, California during the "Bongo Fury" tour. Beefheart sat in the corner of the stage and yelled "fuck you" at the audience throughout the entire set until the crowd booed 'em off stage. He is the last of the midieval mad geniuses--except with a soprano sax [it always sounds like he's strangling a goose when he plays it].

And Gospel at Colonus - An almost unknown gospel retelling of the story of Oedipus.