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Contents 1 Rumpole, Q.C.? 2 Which came first - stories or TV? 3 Class of Rumpole's degree 3.1 Fair use rationale for Image:Rumpole-book.jpg 3.2 Exception to the rule "Never Plead Guilty"? 3.3 DVD releases?

[edit] Rumpole, Q.C.?

The Daily Mail have just finished publishing a 3-part Rumpole Christmas story in which they describe Rumpole as a QC.

Can anyone shed light on this? Wulfilia 03:47, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Unless Rumpole "takes silk" becomes a Q.C. in the story itself, which seems unlikely, it sounds like a mistake. Is the story available on the Daily Mail website or elsewhere? Newyorkbrad 03:55, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Which came first - stories or TV?

"[A] television series created and written by British writer Sir John Mortimer ... [I]t has been spun off into a series of short stories, novels, and radio programmes."

My understanding is that Rumpole first appeared in a play, followed by some short stories, followed by the first TV series. If there is no objection I will make changes to reflect this. Wulfilia 03:47, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Without a source, we shouldn't get too precise on the chronology of the written stories compared to the TV series. Given that he wrote both the short stories and the TV show, I assumed they probably were done at about the same time, with the written stories serving like a treatment for the teleplay. (Rumpole à la Carte was published a year before series 6, but the others were published the same year as each associated TV series.)

The short stories and TV series probably became fairly intertwined; for example, the actor who played Judge Bullingham died in 1987 and the part was not recast, I wonder if any of the televised short stories from 1987–1992 have him as a significant character? It doesn't seem to be a particularly clear case of one being spun-off or adapted from the other. Those are my caveats, I agree it needs some revision. --Mrwojo 09:15, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Rumpole first appeared in the 1975 BBC Play for Today, whereas the first book didn't appear until 1978, the same year as the first Thames Television series, and almost certainly written concurrent with it. Mrotimer has himself drawn parallels with his 1957 radio play The Dock Brief (filmed in 1962, a.k.a. Trial and Error), but the lead character - the barrister Morgenhall - is more a mixture of Uncle Tom and a successful version of George Frobisher than Rumpole. Nick Cooper 11:23, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Class of Rumpole's degree

One book (Rumpole's return I think) states Rumpole's degree as a Fourth; a classification that has not been available from Oxford for many years. Contrary to the previous text, an Oxford Third was not equivalent to a 2:2 - the second class was undivided, so both 2:1s and 2:2s were in that class. Sjoh0050 16:21, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Rumpole-book.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:01, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Exception to the rule "Never Plead Guilty"?

In "Rumpole's Last Case" both Dennis and Cyril Timson plead guilty to theft, though, I'll admit, not in exchange for lesser punishment on the gun charge. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.48.123.234 (talk) 20:58, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] DVD releases?

Many other TV shows have an expanded section detailing DVD releases (e.g. series, region, and date of release). Does anyone know those details for Rumpole? I'm happy to add the information if someone can point me at it (or send it to me).  HWV 258  02:58, 23 April 2008 (UTC)