User talk:Rosspz

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[edit] Beardstown and Sangamon Canal

Thanks for the new article. Nice job. I added some categories and fiddled with the sources a bit. -- DS1953 talk 22:11, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fred Thompson

Good edits Tvoz |talk 18:33, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

One request though - could you put in a few word edit summary as you go so people have an idea of what you're doing - "copy edit" will suffice if that's all it is. Makes it easier for others to follow the edit trail. Thx. Tvoz |talk 18:41, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Sue Randall

It wasn't sourced the first time, amigo. Not stating references because the article lacks them already isn't a good reason or good practice. - Dudesleeper · Talk 17:50, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

And I started her article, so I hope that covers the "original contributions" you requested. - Dudesleeper · Talk 17:55, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
A footnote appeared five minutes after the article was created. Also, at the time IMDb only listed Randall as appearing in fourteen episodes of Beaver, which is why until recently the article stated — hold on to your hat here — that she appeared in fourteen episodes. Anything else you'd like clarification on? - Dudesleeper · Talk 19:43, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Because you're better at everything than I am, obviously. - Dudesleeper · Talk 17:32, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I have reverted your personal attacks at my talkpage

Please refrain from leaving insulting messages such as this on my talkpage. If you do so again, you will be reported. If you have an issue with my edits at Barack Obama take it up at that talkpage, and do so without personally insulting those with whom you disagree. Bellwether BC 05:29, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

  • The "rationale" is at the talkpage for that article, which is where all further discussion of the article (at least by me) will take place. Bellwether BC 05:37, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Martin Luther King, Jr. authorship issues

Please familiarize yourself with No personal attacks and Assume good faith before you make baseless accusations about other editors.

As I explained in the edit summary at Martin Luther King, Jr. authorship issues, there is little relationship between Chesnutt's essay and King's speech. You haven't indicated that a reliable source has asserted such a relationship, which means that your allegation is original research.

The relationship between Carey's and King's speeches is described in the article. As I wrote in my edit summary, I don't think it's necessary to quote both speeches at length. If you don't agree, we have an honest difference of opinion. We don't have "POV edits without any rationale", "predatory editing", or an attitude of "How dare you say anything that might be critical of an African American person in Wikipedia".

In the future, please discuss differences of opinion before you make personal attacks against other editors. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 20:36, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

Thanks for the note, although I am following the conversation at the article's talk page, and thanks for participating in the discussion on the talk page. Natalie (talk) 17:15, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Frank Marshall Davis

To answer your question, the book I was referring to is the one in the citation I gave: "Dreams from My Father". Yes, the previous quote was a total mischaracterization. It said:
In his autobiographical Dreams from My Father, US senator and Democratic party presidential candidate Barack Obama writes of a father figure named Frank who influenced him profoundly with his "hard-earned knowledge." This "Frank" was Davis. Obama acknowledges the words of wisdom "Frank and his old Black Power dashiki self" shared with him before he set off for college in 1979. This advice included not to "start believing what they tell you about equal opportunity and the American way and all that shit." Obama refers to Davis as being a decisive influence in helping him to find his identity as an African-American.
The book does not say or imply 'father figure', 'influenced him profoundly with his hard-earned knowledge', any acknowledgement of 'words of wisdom', or 'decisive influence'. Frank was a guy who played cards and drank with Obama's grandfather. The only help Frank was in finding his (Obama's) identity as an African-American was to know what it was like to be a black person in the US in the early part of the century until the 50's and 60's. Frank didn't seem to think anything had changed after that. A history lesson and a lesson in how one can become bitter if one doesn't keep up with the times. Rather like Wright.
I rather expect you read some blogs about the book, rather than the book itself, as your mischaracterization matches much of what I've been reading out there. I expect most libraries have the book, if you want to check it for yourself (chapters 4 and 5). Flatterworld (talk) 21:41, 2 May 2008 (UTC)