Talk:Romanian Folk Dances

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The fourth dance - Buciumeana - is described as a 'hornpipe'. I think this is incorrect. Googling around, it can be seen that bucium can mean a horn - a big long alphorn type thing (played by women, no less! See the doumentary about Bartok 'The Miraculous Circumstance' for footage). But Bucium, as rightly pointed out, is also one way of spelling the name of a region of Romania that was once part of Hungary (or the Austro-Hungarian empire). So the title cannot be referring to two meanings simultaneously. If you listen to the piece it is a plaintive melody, which does not suggest 'hornpipe' in any way. Perhaps I'll edit this unless anybody can come up with any valid reason to call it a 'hornpipe'.

You are probably right. The suffix -ean(a) is used to indicate the place of origin. Nevertheless, the Romanian bucium actually does produce a 'plaintive' sound, afaik. --Disconnect 6 16:29, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Poarga

It's obviously Poarga, not Poarcă. See the tracklisting of this recording and the definition of 'poarga' in Romanian.
Poarga = dance similar to the Polka. Poarca is indeed a children's game (not dance). Maybe the confusion sprang from the fact that joc means both game and dance in Romanian. --Disconnect 6 (talk) 11:26, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sz. Number

My own independent research leads me to believe that the Sz. number for the 1915 "Romanian Folk Dances" is 56, not 68. (Its BB. number would be 68.) I suspect that the person who entered this information was momentarily confused by the varying numbering systems for Bartók's work, since the 1917 "Romanian Folk Dances" for small orchestra has an Sz. number of 68 (and a BB. number of 76). Put simply, the author used the BB. number for the 1915 piece instead of the Sz. number, and then used that (incorrect) Sz. number to find the corresponding BB. number. (This is confirmed by the presence on the list of two "Romantic Folk Dances" compositions with an Sz. number of 68 and BB. number of 76.) I have since corrected the 1915 label. --Rckent (talk) 02:21, 4 May 2008 (UTC)